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[WaPo] The top Democrats calling on Biden to drop out of the 2024 election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jul 6, 2024.

  1. basso

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    Can we at least get consistent narratives?

    Last I checked the narrative was that the Biden family was fiercely fighting for Biden to stay in the race...

    Now the narrative is that Biden has on his own decided to stay in the race while hurting his family?

    I thought his family sucked off Biden being President because they were corrupt and stand to lose a lot if he is no longer in the White House.

    It is really hard to keep up with all the changing narratives....

    Also.... anyone that thought that Joe Biden (and every other President) didn't have lots of selfish ambition, is a fool. Of course Joe Biden wanted to be President. He has been ambitious his entire career and has tried to be President for nearly 40 years. Nothing shocking about that. No one would go through all the hoops it takes to be President without ambition.

    Also - this idea that Joe Biden is this regular guy with a regular life is silly. I think that he genuinely loves his family (and his kids have said as much in private), but he was away from his kids a lot, his wife is known to be ambitious as well - and the Biden kids have battled drug and sex addiction. Is that Joe Biden's fault? No - probably not, but the point is that it wasn't Mayberry either.

    Also - ambition is a weird animal - probably the most ambitious President ever was LBJ, and he ultimately decided that he didn't care what the DNC wanted, he wasn't seeking another term.
     
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    If they really want to get rid of him, they can get rid of him - the problem is that there would need to be enough of them and they would have to hold the line. The problem is that if they don't hold the line, they will risk being alienated by the power brokers in the party. Which is why you are mostly seeing doners and non-politicians saying anything.

    Their only other concern is the off chance that he runs as a third-party candidate or it gets really ugly.

    Both parties have gotten lazy and fat - but this thread is about Biden, and the DNC needs to do their job and run ethical candidates, but also candidates that the public wants, not just whoever put in the most work. While I don't think that Biden has mentally lost much, he clearly has physically and likely neurologically.
     
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    New headline: "Joe Biden is so old that even 77 year old Meathead actor ***** on his age."
     
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    LBJ died at 64.
     
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    https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=410481

    As many are saying: Biden can't just withdraw from the race. If he's too demented to run for president, he's also too demented to continue acting as president.

    This is another big complication for Puerto Rican Joe -- he really can't just withdraw from the race. He has to face the reality that if he withdraws from the race, he must also become the first president in history to resign from the presidency due to his dementia and the cover-up of it.

    Biden's staffers are all on the hook for the cover-up, of course. No wonder they're determined to keep him in the race. What happens to them after Biden admits yes, I'm incapable of being president? He'll essentially be implicating them in a coup, as they were unconstitutionally running the country.

    Tough situation for the party that wants to Save Muh Precious Democracy.
     
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    I'm resigned myself to the fact that Trump is going to win. I hope he at least bullies the feds to drop the interests rate so I can lower my mortgage payment. I guess if he becomes a dictator, then, well, not sure what to say anymore. If he is going to win, he is going to win.
     
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    Don't forget that LBJ was deathly afraid of dying from a heart attack at the same age as his father and grandfather. Turns out he was right about that one. Winning in 1968 probably would've killed him in office.
     
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    life was so miserable under the first Trump presidency, right?
     
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    I know - and was considered old at the time he was President.

    Biden is basically like having LBJ's father in office.

    Then again Trump is going to be almost 25 years older than Nixon when he was elected President.

    I think it is fair to say this will be the last Baby Boomer President.
     
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    I don't know, the youngest baby boomers right now are what, 60? still plenty of time left for some of them
     
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    This is probably right, but I still don't understand why the "power brokers" are so loyal to Biden. Yes, he's an incumbent. But, he's always been a weak incumbent because of his age. He will be dead within 10 years and he comes from a small, inconsequential state. What "Biden machine" within the party will exist to elevate or punish candidates for rebellion once he's gone? He was never going to be able to exert influence over the party in the same way that the Obamas and Clintons have been able to.

    The risk of calling for him to resign from the race now feels low to me.
     
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    Fun, and disturbing, fact: Joe Biden was born closer to Abraham Lincoln's second inauguration than his own.
     
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    Yeah? Objectively it was pretty bad.

    We can debate how much of that was Trump's fault, but I would say that the second half of the Trump Presidency is the worst in my lifetime other than after 9-11.
     
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    insh’allah.
     
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    True - I have always considered Baby Boomers to from the 1950's but that isn't quite true.
     
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