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The state of the republican party

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  1. KingCheetah

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    Missing U: Ann Althouse

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    you cant be both pro-trump and pro-USA. pick one dude.
     
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    The conservative extremists want to turn back the clock 100 years ... or is 200 years? In a normal election cycle (pre-Trump) conservative whack-a-doobles would not dare say the quiet part out loud.

    We have to assume that Profoundly Ignorant and Unqualified for Any Elected Office Trump will implement all of the Project 2025 plan. To believe otherwise is incredibly naive. To say later that one did not think that Trump would go this far will be disingenuous. Trump went this far already by nominating Federalist Society judges, who are legislating the Project 2025 agenda from the bench.

    It is an open question whether the US electorate will allow the 20% who want this to prevail.




    Roberts continued, "In spite of all this nonsense from the left, we are going to win. We're in the process of taking this country back." You can read the whole interview over on Media Matters.

    When Roberts says "the left" he means "anyone who doesn't agree with our extremely unpopular world views." The Heritage Foundation created Project 2025, the Christian Nationalist plan if Trump wins the election.

    Project 2025

    Only one in four Americans is aware of Project 2025, which calls for
    • National abortion ban
    • Taking away all forms of contraception
    • Making no-fault divorce illegal
    The Dobbs Decision was only the first step in taking away our rights.
     
  4. Os Trigonum

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    don't forget Turley, or the Federalist

    Biden’s Real Legacy Will Be As Silencer Of Speech

    https://thefederalist.com/2024/07/04/bidens-real-legacy-will-be-as-silencer-of-speech/

    excerpt:

    Happy birthday, America.

    Now, shut up.

    That’s the greeting card President Joe Biden and his merry band of deep staters should send to U.S. citizens after spending the better part of the past four years bludgeoning the First Amendment. From “Disinformation czars” to tongue-cutting gag orders on political enemies, the Biden years will be remembered for unrivaled attacks on primary rights.

    As Jonathan Turley writes in his new book, The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage, Joe Biden is “the most anti-free speech president since John Adams.”

    “He has created an unprecedented system of censorship through financial support and his public statements. So the idea that he is really the symbol of constitutional fealty is really alarming, it’s so detached from reality,” the attorney, law professor, columnist, and popular television analyst recently said on Fox News Radio’s “Brian Kilmeade Show.”

    Criminalizing Criticism
    Turley isn’t spinning hyperbole. Adams’ wholehearted support of the Sedition Act saw a sweeping attack on free speech and freedom of the press at the dawn of the republic. Political enemies were arrested and sent to prison for criticizing the government.

    One of the “most dramatic” victims of the law was a representative from Vermont, Matthew Lyon, who was imprisoned for speaking out against President Adams’ “unbounded thirst for ridiculous pomp, foolish adulation, and self avarice.” He also featured such rhetoric in his campaign speeches.

    Lyon won reelection — from his jail cell.

    Sound familiar?

    A Dark Age for Freedom of Speech
    Biden’s politically weaponized Department of Justice, led by Democrat Party henchman Attorney General Merrick Garland, has unleashed a prosecutorial whirlwind on former President Donald Trump, Biden’s Republican challenger in the rematch of the 2020 presidential election. In large part, DOJ Special Counsel Jack Smith is targeting Trump for his speech — what the outgoing president said to his supporters on Jan. 6, 2021. His words — that demonstrators who believed the election was stolen would march to the Capitol “peacefully and patriotically” — became the impetus for charges of “insurrection” and “election interference.”

    Federal prosecutors, too, went after hundreds of Americans, many of them engaging in “mostly peaceful protests,” unconstitutionally employing a 2002 obstruction law that the U.S. Supreme Court recently found to be an abuse of power.

    At the same time, leftist judges have slapped Trump with gag orders silencing his ability to defend himself in the court of public opinion. The former president has come dangerously close to being ordered to serve jail time for violating the orders.

    Meanwhile, the Biden administration has worked with Big Tech to silence opposition to their policies, shutting down those who dare to speak out against pandemic lockdowns or the efficacy and dangers of Covid vaccines. The deep state has interfered in elections, using former intelligence agency officials to push a lie that “Russian disinformation” was behind a damning laptop owned by Biden’s convicted felon son. Speaking of disinformation, Biden’s Department of Homeland Security was forced to shut down an Orwellian “Disinformation Governance Board” after Americans saw the KGB-style speech monitor for what it was: a threat to the First Amendment.

    ‘Limits of Presidential Powers’
    In the wake of this week’s Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity, after Justice Sonia Sotomayor ridiculously warned that the down-the-middle decision allows presidents to order the assassination of their political enemies, Biden just as ridiculously insisted that he had “character” enough to resist abusing his powers.

    “I know I will respect the limits of the presidential powers that I have for three-and-a-half years. But any president, including Donald Trump, will now be free to ignore the law,” Biden claimed in a brief speech following both the court’s ruling and his disastrous debate performance last week.

    Turley told Kilmeade that not only are Joe Biden and Justice Sotomayor not telling the truth to the American people, but the current White House resident is anything but a beacon of integrity on the limits of executive branch power. (On a related note, Turley mentions how Biden was vice president when then-President Barack Obama ordered the targeted killings of U.S. citizens, including a 16-year-old boy — who had not been charged or convicted of a crime — in a drone strike in Yemen.)

    “This president has racked up an impressive array of losses in federal court that repeatedly found that he has violated the Constitution, including racial discrimination rulings,” Turley said.

    A Legacy of Destruction
    The legal expert takes his new book’s title from Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis, a tireless voice for civil liberties and the indispensable right of free expression.

    In a 1927 opinion Brandeis wrote, “Those who won our independence … believed that freedom to think as you will and to speak as you think are means indispensable to the discovery and spread of political truth; that, without free speech and assembly, discussion would be futile.”

    The difference between John Adams and Joe Biden is that Adams performed countless acts of noble service to this exceptional land of liberty, despite some very wrongheaded and tyrannical policies to the contrary. Biden has spent a lifetime in politics enriching himself and his family while weakening the liberties and nation Adams helped build.

    Biden’s legacy among U.S. presidents will be the many ways he destroyed and allowed the destruction of the indispensable right.

    Matt Kittle is a senior elections correspondent for The Federalist. An award-winning investigative reporter and 30-year veteran of print, broadcast, and online journalism, Kittle previously served as the executive director of Empower Wisconsin.




     
  6. deb4rockets

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    Look at the faces on the website for the Heritage Foundation under staff, directors, leaders, experts, and interns and tell me they aren't white supremacists with a straight face.
     
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    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2024/07/president-biden-arrives-friday-in.html

    7 minutes ago
    "President Biden arrives Friday in Madison, Wis., for what will be a critical few hours as he holds a rally attempting to inject new life..."
    by noreply@blogger.com (Ann Althouse)

    "... into a flagging campaign and sits for an ABC News interview as part of an effort to demonstrate his verbal and mental ability...."

    I'm reading "Biden faces critical day to push back against calls to withdraw/With a rally in Wisconsin and an interview on ABC, Biden hopes to begin turning the tide after days of criticism of his recent debate performance" (WaPo).

    Where is this "rally"? When is it? This is happening in my city, and I can't find anything in the local press about how a person could actually attend this event. Might I stumble into it if I go traipsing about? Will George Stephanopoulos and Biden do their interview in a room with an audience? It's disturbing that Biden has been hidden away throughout his campaign, so if the idea is now finally to emerge into view, why is he so hard to see?

    Biden is scheduled to arrive in Wisconsin early Friday afternoon, with plans to be in the state for a few hours....
    Does that sound like they want us to see him?

    [T]he rally in Madison...
    Wherever it is...

    ... will include Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), Madison Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway and former Fitchburg mayor Frances Huntley-Cooper... But.... Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), who is running her own reelection race and leads in the polls, will not be joining Biden during the trip.... Ben Wikler, chairman of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, who will join Biden at the rally, said he did not believe the dynamic of the race was changed by Biden’s performance at the debate....“The concern that people have is, one candidate is scary, the other candidate’s old,” he said.

    “Either we figure out how to shift that conversation or we slug it out for the last couple thousand votes in the handful of states that tip the electoral college balance.”
    Actually both candidates are scary and both are old, but one seems to have lost the mental capacity to do the job. That's different from oldness and scariness.
     
  8. Os Trigonum

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    don't forget Turley

    https://jonathanturley.org/2024/07/...t-the-country-is-safe-in-the-hands-of-others/

    The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Government: Rep. Goldman Insists that the Country is Safe in the Hands of Others
    by jonathanturley

    Douglas Adams, author of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, wrote “The President [of the Galaxy] in particular is very much a figurehead—he wields no real power whatsoever. […] His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.” This week, Rep. Daniel Goldman (D-NY) seemed to be taking the Hitchhiker’s Guide as a guide for government. When asked about the alarming physical and mental decline of President Joe Biden, Goldman suggested that it really does not matter. In responding to a call for Biden’s removal under the 25th Amendment, Goldman suggested that the Republic is safe because it is safely in the hands of people around Biden. It is an argument that flips the 25th Amendment on its head and embraces the idea of a figurehead president.

    Goldman brushed away the growing calls for President Biden to step aside as incapable of serving another four years. Indeed, some are calling for an investigation into whether he can carry out the duties of his office until January 2025.

    “So, let’s not just focus on Joe Biden here. Let’s focus on the people around him, the administration, the policies, and most importantly, the appreciation and protection for the rule of law and our democracy that Donald Trump, every single day, has vowed to take down.”

    He added that Biden is “vibrant” and that “the reality is that Joe Biden has surrounded himself with an incredibly capable team with almost no turnover.”

    Other Democrats have attempted to avoid the manifest confusion and infirmity of the president. This includes Democrats who repeatedly called for formal action to remove former President Donald Trump under the 25th Amendment, including Reps. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.; Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash.; Jamie Raskin, D-Md.; Maxine Waters, D-Calif., and Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.

    However, it was Goldman who, as usual, came up with the most vertigo-triggering spin.

    The 25th Amendment was designed to specifically avoid a figurehead presidency where family or aides perform critical functions of the office. That was indeed the concern with presidents like Woodrow Wilson when a stroke left him incapable to function as president. His wife Edith hid the truth from the public and the Congress as she and others carried out his functions.

    He also had “an incredibly capable team” around him, but they were not elected president.

    In the meantime, the media is still struggling to explain to the public why they did not disclose the President’s condition earlier while promulgating the “cheap fake” narrative. For weeks heading into the debate, media outlets repeated the claim that videos showing Biden’s confusion were false and misleading. Some are now reportedly admitting that they did not want to confirm “right-wing media” accounts — an admission of shaping the news for political purposes.

    The greatest threat to President Biden may ultimately be the political calculus. For most of these members, their loyalty to Biden ends at the point that he endangers their own hold on power. A couple dozen members are reportedly preparing a letter calling for possible removal in the hope that they can replace Biden with someone who has a better chance of beating Trump. It is no easy feat, but Democratic operatives are furiously working out the complications under federal election laws and state laws.

    In the meantime, the 25th Amendment process is looming. More citizens may become convinced by what Pelosi said about then President Donald Trump: “Congress has a constitutional duty to lay out the process by which a president’s incapacity and the president of any party is determined…A president’s fitness for office must be determined by science and facts.”
     
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    Biden had a terrible debate but other than that hasn’t shown that he can’t carry out the functions of president. Just this past week he worked with Midwest leaders to address flooding in the upper Midwest and was still able to meet with G7 leaders last months

    The 25th Amendment shouldn’t be invoked because the sitting president might not win an election. That would be an abuse of it for political reasons.

    What it should be invoked for is in the midst of a crisis the President either can’t respond or refuses to respond to entreaties for action. We haven’t seen that from Biden yet.
     
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    Republicans are really Monarchist at this point

    They want to return to the time of
    Royalty, Lords and Ladies, Knights, Merchant Class and Serf
    These people legitimately WANT TO BE RULED my "THEIR BETTERS"
    They believe the rich are rich by Divine Right and we should do everything to make sure they stay divine
    Back in the day - King James I belive - accomplished this through Religion - a modified Catholicism of sorts
    Now . .. - King Donald - is doing this with a Modified Religion of Capitalistic Christianity

    King James did this by corrupting the Clergy . .er. . . bringing the Clergy to his cause by hook or by crook
    King Donal is doing this by corrupting the Courts . .er. . . bringing the Courts to his cause by hook or by crook

    King James got the Aristocrats on his side and the lieges (Knights)
    King Donald is using the Rich Elites and their paid for politicians and law enforcement


    The Republicans wish to return to the time of being lead by a King . . .
    Honestly they are HYDRA of loyalist to the monarchy that hid in plain sight for 260+ years

    Rocket River
     
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    Bloodless, if the left allows it to be. So, that's a slightly clever way of saying out loud: If we don't get everything we want, we will take what we want by violence.

    Good times ahead, folks, if more people don't question their angertainment viewing/clicking practices.
     
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    I don't think the average Republican voter especially the MAGA voter wants a monarchy. What they want is a strongman. Who will address their grievances and fight for their causes. This has been the appeal for authoritarians going back to Ancient Greece. It is why the words "tyrant" and "demagogue" came from ancient Greek.
     
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    This should be major talking points by the Dems, this is frankly some scary ****. I have tried to read through it and it makes me sick to my stomach, they also want to be the most feared nation by upping the ante on Nuclear weapons and abandoning several laws that were established during the cold war............trump should be pressed on if he agrees with this project as several of his henchmen are authors.............P Navarro has his own chapter
     
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    I feel like I need a break from politics for a while. I’ll probably watch Biden’s interview tonight but this is probably the worst 4th of July weekend since I almost blew my fingers off in 1996.
     
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    The other part that needs to be emphasized is how dangerous it is to replace career administrators and regulators for people who's only qualification is political loyalty.

    The Federal government isn't popular and people grip about and / or fear "the deep state" but as we see with hurricane season there is still a lot of trust in NOAA and while people complain about it even Red State politicians call for FEMA help when a disaster hits. Even with alarmist headlines we overall have very safe food and medicine. I doubt people want or are prepared for what happens when the people who have spent their careers dealing with severe weather, other natural disasters and food safety are replaced by political "yes men".

    @rimrocker worked for the Department of Interior on wildland fires. I would really like to hear his opinion on this.
     
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    Here in NY the democrats have made it impossible for you to blow your fingers off.
    Fireworks are banned.

    Take from that what you will.
     
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    A monarchy is a country that is ruled by a monarch, and monarchy is this system or form of government. A monarch, such as a king or queen, rules a kingdom or empire. In a constitutional monarchy, the monarch's power is limited by a constitution. But in an absolute monarchy, the monarch has unlimited power.

    Meaning in the general sense - They want to be rules by a ruling party
    Strongman - Tyrant - King - Dictator <--- all of these are different type Monachies. (rule by one)

    Rocket River
     
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    Fireworks are banned in the Houston city limits too, but you'd never believe that looking up at all the fireworks in the sky all around the neighborhoods in Houston.
     
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    Abbott will be sticking his bloody hands out for federal aid a lot by the time this year's hurricane season ends. No way in hell Texas could support itself without the federal government assistance during hurricane season.
     

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