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The question of trump immunity

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Dec 24, 2023.

  1. SamFisher

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    But this is literally exactly what happened, plus a lawless, openly corrupt conservative judiciary system that has relentlessly seized power for itself - despite no mandate, either by dead old founders, random dictionaries, or popular acclaim - and ultimately used it to bend the country to one party rule and ultimately abolish democracy as we knew it since the 1950s.
     
  2. Nook

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    I guess you forgot about Clinton elected, Clinton elected, Obama elected, Obama elected

    Apparently, Clinton killed people while in office and Obama was a Muslim from Africa that somehow won.

    Oddly enough - I think double impeachment, convicted felon and civil suit judgment for sexual assault would be a new one on my Presidential bingo card. Then again, I lived through a President porking a cute fat girl in office, so anything is possible.
     
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  3. basso

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    so much winning.
     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    That is definitely the pro-trump message... so much winning, being a convicted felon and rapist, being elected president thanks to a protective maga supreme court and adoring supporters.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    The MAGA court has no authority to interfere with his NY court case but they just invented it with the new presidential immunity law.

    They will try to overturn.

    NY state should resist but they are lead by a putz and a coward.
     
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  6. basso

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    so is the United States.
     
  7. Xopher

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    1. Trunp showed classified documents to a reporter and friends.
    2. This makes Trump a traitor and treasonous.
    3. We don't know if Trump has more documents or made copies of the ones he had.
    4. Trump is a National Security threat.
    5. Treason is punishable by death.
    6. As an official act I, Joseph Robinette Biden, am ordering the execution of Donald J. Trump
    7. I'm immune, b****es! Let's get ice cream!
     
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  8. Xopher

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    No President has ever been charged with a crime for official acts. Not even Trump. Paying off a p*rn star before he was President then talking trash about her to others and talking about the scheme while President, again, not an official act.

    Trying to subvert an election. Not an official act.

    Keeping classified documents after no longer being President. Not an official act.

    Inciting others to take illegal actions, not an official act.

    Just because one claims it was an official act because they were President when they took the action, does not make it so.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    This is one of the several problems with this ruling is determining what is official acts and what is not.

    Any sitting or former president who finds themselves in legal trouble will argue they were acting in an official capacity. For example following what Barrett warned about a President could accept a bribe to appoint someone to an ambassadorship
    And then argue that appointing ambassadors is an official act so this cannot be prosecuted.
     
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  10. Xopher

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    At least Rush is 1,231 days sober.
     
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    I have a legit question. Let's say Joe Biden as Commander in Chief makes a clearly illegal order to a service person. The service person carries out that order because the Commander in Chief told them to. Would the service member be charged? (Now let's ignore pardons and the the President telling the DOJ not to prosecute.)
     
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    He could also build a high rise. Move the embassy to said high rise, charge the United States rent, and it is an official act. Yes a President can still be impeached and not criminally charged, but as we have seen the bar for impeachment and conviction is very high.
     
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    Democratic Party members, and the media (but I repeat myself) have forgotten we're a nation of laws, not men. they have prostituted themselves in a vain effort against one man, and in so doing, have enabled his reelection.

    sad
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    Right so we should instead support a man who now has been convicted?
    projection
     
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    I will not.
     
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    Impeachment isn’t a criminal process. A president can be impeached for something that isn’t legally defined crime or not be impeached for a crime. Also as we see impeachment doesn’t apply to a former president.
     
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    Of course you don’t like Trump
    But just defend them and repeat his rhetoric.
     
  18. basso

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    contra biden.
     
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    No. You defend Trump in areas that aren't comparative to Biden.
     
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