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Trump Coward Watch, version infinity: Will he show up to debate??

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jun 14, 2024.

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Will Trump Show Up to Presidential Debates?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe

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  4. I'm an idiot

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  1. basso

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    ChumbaJoeba?
     
  2. Os Trigonum

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    https://nypost.com/2024/06/29/us-ne...erves-an-apology-after-biden-debate-analysts/

    Special Counsel Robert Hur ‘vindicated,’ ‘deserves an apology’ after Biden debate performance: analysts
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    Kyle Morris, Fox News
    Published June 29, 2024, 2:03 p.m. ET

    Special Counsel Robert Hur’s report described President Biden as “a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory” — and numerous political analysts said that was exactly the impression that the president left on viewers of the debate on Thursday.

    In the February report, which noted that Biden’s “memory also appeared to have significant limitations,” Hur said he would bring no criminal charges against the president after a months-long investigation into his improper retention of classified documents related to national security.

    “Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone from whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt,” the report stated. “It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

    During and after Biden’s debate against former President Donald Trump this week, several political analysts took to social media to suggest that Hur, who faced criticism from Democrats and liberal media figures over the report’s comments about Biden’s memory and judgment, had been “vindicated” and “deserves an apology.”
    more at the link
     
  3. Bandwagoner

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    Is it teleprompters that helps him out?
    State of the Union speech (teleprompter) good.
    Press conference after special counsel called him "elderly man with a poor memory" Bad
    Debate - Bad
    Post Debate speech - Good
     
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  4. Uprising

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    Yes...

    If he doesn't have to think, he can speak. There is an extreme disconnect between his brain and his mouth.
     
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  5. deb4rockets

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    Would you call Trump an elderly man with a bad memory, or did he just lie on purpose throughout the debate when he spoke about the past?
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    did Biden lie during the debate?
     
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  7. Os Trigonum

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    Jim Carville has all the earmarks of a classic Russian information operation

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...n-debate-he-relies-on-employees-not-advisers/

    Carville on Biden’s dismal debate: He relies on ‘employees’ not ‘advisers’
    by Lauren Irwin

    Longtime Democratic strategist James Carville said President Biden does not have advisers telling him what to do, he has employees, in comments after his poor debate showing on Thursday night.

    Since the debate between Biden and former President Trump, the conversation has been centered around if Biden should step aside and allow another Democrat to take on Trump in the polls.

    Carville told Axios that he never thought Biden running “was a nifty idea” and predicts that Biden will be off the ballot by Election Day.

    Some Democrats are sounding the alarm after the debate while others are sticking behind the president. Despite what his campaign staff may think, Carville said there are only a few people who the president really listens to.

    “He doesn’t have advisers. He has employees,” Carville said.

    The fact that some House Democrats are questioning his capabilities was unthinkable before the debate, but now some say “it’s time for him to step aside.”

    Staunch Biden allies, like former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), defended his performance and character. Pelosi said Biden “got off to a bad start” but his integrity was “far better” than Trump’s “dishonesty.”

    Another former Speaker, Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) also weighed in, arguing that no one can negotiate with Biden and the only way the ticket will change is if he bows out himself.

    Axios reported that a small circle of Biden’s closest allies, Jill Biden, his wife; Valerie Biden, his sister; and Ted Kaufman, his longtime friend, are ultimately the “only Biden deciders.”
     
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  8. deb4rockets

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    Yes, but not with every single question. There is no comparison to a pathological liar like Trump. He seriously can't speak 2 minutes without spurting out lies, and sometimes they come out in rapid succession.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    [​IMG]
     
  10. Os Trigonum

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    LOL. related:

    https://wapo.st/3xv1lZE

    link should work for everyone

    Carville predicted Biden would drop out. A campaign message invoked him anyway.
    The Biden campaign used James Carville’s name in a text asking for donations. The Democratic strategist says he “never signed off on that.”

    By Tyler Page and Maegan Vazquez
    June 29, 2024 at 4:58 p.m. EDT

    James Carville, the longtime Democratic strategist known as the “Ragin’ Cajun,” said in an interview published Saturday that he does not think President Biden will be on the ticket come Election Day. But hours after the story was published, the Biden campaign sent a fundraising message invoking his name.

    “Hi, it’s James Carville. I need you and Democrats everywhere to make a contribution to the Biden-Harris campaign ASAP. Help them defeat Donald Trump,” the text said.

    Carville told The Post that he “never signed off on that.”

    Hours before the campaign text was sent, Carville was quoted in an Axios story examining who would play a role in influencing whether Biden would step aside in the wake of his halting presidential debate performance.

    Carville, who was the lead strategist for Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign, told the outlet he thinks Biden will no longer be in the running by the time Election Day comes around, paraphrasing a famous quote by the late economist Herb Stein, saying, “That which can’t continue … won’t.”

    Lauren Hitt, a Biden campaign spokesperson, said in a statement that Carville’s team “signed off on a robust fundraising package for our campaign including today’s message, and we’re grateful for everything he does to ensure that Joe Biden is re-elected to a second term.”

    But Carville told The Post that he checked with his team and they had no knowledge of it. The fundraising text, he said, “didn’t bother me as much as the debate.”
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    It's sad that Trump lied throughout the f'ing debate, yet the big story here and in the media is that a known stutterer got nervous speaking during a live TV event and tripped over himself-- at times. Biden made some great points as well, but ithe Maga cult, being the jackasses they are, want to believe Trump defeated him. In reality, if Biden "lost" it's because he defeated himself, full stop.
     
  14. Os Trigonum

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    Biden definitely lost
     
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    So you're saying Trump answered every question truthfully and to your liking and Biden didn't score any points along the way? Okay.

    I think the truth is Biden performed extremely poorly--at times--and he didn't come across like we've come to expect someone in that situation would. If you want to call that a loss, fine.

    I would probably be calling Trump the loser today if he stumbled so badly, especially given his truthfulness, but we should probably judge these men on their answers and plans as well (at least the coherent ones, lol).
     
  16. Os Trigonum

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    no, I was responding to the "if/then" statement "In reality, if Biden "lost" it's because he defeated himself, full stop."

    There is no "if." In reality, Biden lost. And yes, it is because he defeated himself, but that's a different topic.
     
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    Trump got 9% of the black vote in 2016 and 12% in 2020.

    12% of black votes is 1.5% of the national population. If he skyrockets his black support, and gets an astonishing 20% of the black vote, that's 2.6% of the national population.

    those are worthless gains. All the more futile when you consider the demographic you are talking about lives in insanely blue counties that are metro, or extremely red rural and not really in-between. It isn't an election altering stat for either candidate.
     
  18. FrontRunner

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    I understand why you feel that way. The words didn't come out right for Biden. But if you look at the words that came out of Trump's mouth...

    [​IMG]

    Anyhow, going to eat now...
     
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    As someone who has straddled the fence trying to decode each sides "truth"...I find it very interesting for the first time in almost 8 yrs, there is a break in the unity of the democrats narrative. Trump is still a liar, and a danger to our existence remains strong, but the fact that a week ago we were being told "cheap fake" was a thing, and now after the debate a lot of those people are calling for him to step down. My concerns are with the integrity of the administration, if debate Joe is who he is without teleprompters...who is writing these, and ultimately deciding policy? Do we have a shadow government? How will this play out over four more years? if reelected who will really be running this country...Joe is obviously in decline...this is no longer an argument, for me.
     
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  20. Salvy

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    Trump was solid, there were only a couple of questions he did not answer and that's because he was too busy answering all the bs Biden was saying. Trump should have been more focused on the questions and not on the blabbering fool next to him. He should have used the platform and opportunity to further share his vision on fixing this country.

    Still, Trump looked 100x sharper than Biden....
     

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