I love Sengun. He's by far my favorite Rocket. It's not even close. You could be accurate about Wemby. I do see him jump out on the perimeter and guard. That tells me that he cares. Trust me , I'm very happy we have Sengun and I hope that he stays a Rocket his entire career
A 3 point **** is going to be a mess to clean up. Rockets could even get hurt. Best to leave the development of that in the lab.
Provided he stays healthy, Wemby is going to own most of the league for the rest of his career. Sengun is a good player and I think the best player on our current roster, but he is not anywhere close to being on the same level of game changer as Wemby. Those are just facts -even with Sengun having his best career game against rookie Wemby and the infant Spurs.
How did Stone outflank the Spurs? They had a pick before them - I thought most reporting was that the Rockets would likely take Reed. I doubt the Spurs were taken by surprise when they did....or am I missing something and this is just some ceremonial 'beating of the chest' for the most minor of "wins" against rival teams. ....I've been a Houston fan my whole life but spent my youth living outside of San Antonio - San Antonio is alright - both the city and the team/organization....it's Dallas/Luka/Cuban who I would much prefer see us destroy rather than San Antonio. Would have loved for us to get Wemby, but I'm not mad that SA got him - I mean that team DID prove non American basketball players could be successful in the NBA and they were of the earliest teams scouting over there without applying artificial ceilings to non American players. If ever anyone earned the right to draft a future HOF Euro, it would be the Spurs.
How many wins did Spurs have again? They got the same record pre Wemby and post Wemby so how is that a game changer? Thats like the literal definition of the word so no those are not facts in fact the facts say otherwise. Sengun owned Wemby in their H2H. Wemby is better at collecting stats but right now Sengun is the better game changer since he actually led Rox to wins. Calling Spurs "infant spurs" is so dumb you realize Vassell is 2 yrs older than Jalen and Sengun right? If Spurs are infants Rox are zygotes.
Come on man - I know you are a smarter than this. You can at least make an attempt to understand the basic concept I'm getting at. The Rockets are an older, more complete team than the Spurs - not by much but they are babies and we are toddlers. We have more vet pieces in place - FVV, Brooks, Landale, Uncle Jeff, Steven Adams make our average age 26.3 which is 16th in the league compared to the Spurs at 23.7 (youngest in the league). Many of those vet get minutes here but if you need a metric to spell out the obvious - nbaage.com has a metric called average age by minutes - Spurs are the youngest team in the league with 23.2 followed by OKC(23.6), Detroit(24.1), Orlando(24.3), Portland(24.5), Memphis(24.6), and THEN Houston at 25.3(tied with the Jazz). ...and Wemby is a good player on a significantly worse team than Houston. No one at all in the basketball lowing world outside of SoFs think Sengun is better than Wemby based on a single H2H game and even if you wanted to compare their H2H matchups, Sengun had 6TOs in the previous game against Wemby and allowed Wemby to get 18 rebounds so what's really the point of comparing single games?
How are they babies when Spurs started their rebuild earlier than the Rockets? Calling them babies is pretty dumb tbh because Spurs players like Vassell and Keldon Johnson have been in Pops systems for like 4-5 yrs now. Age by minutes? You realize the average is not representative of reality right? The average of the Rockets is 26.3 how many of our core players last year are that age? We have vets that push that average up while Spurs have mostly similar age players. However in reality the Spurs players are older and have more experience than vast majority of Rox players, like said Vassell is 23, Keldon Johnson 24, JG and Segun who are the oldest core guys are just 21. We played FVV, Brooks and Jeff Green a lot so those pushed the average up but having 3 old guys doesnt mean the entire roster has a collective experience of 26. OTH the core guys Sengun, JG, Jatari have been on a tanking team with zero system and Amen and Cam are literal rookies same as Wemby. The ones who are the babies are the Rockets, they just have nannies on the court. Your entire argument is the problem, over reliance of stats without looking at reality. Thats why people call Wemby the best game changer when their record literally and factually didnt change. Spurs even had the same roster just lost Jakob Poetl. And dont tell me Spurs were tanking like they didnt tank for Wemby but will tank for the weakest draft in years? Bruh.
Really? Age by minutes - in other words, the age of the people who get the most playing time are factored into the average age of your team. In other words, Boban's age counts for nearly nothing on the Rockets because he hardly played....but Brooks and FVV's age DO count for more because they were starters on the team and got the 1st and 4th most minutes on the roster. On the other hand, no one over 26yrs old cracked the top 9 in minutes for San Antonio. The Spurs distribute more of their minutes to younger players than the Rockets do - mostly because FVV is 30 and Brooks is 28. So sure - Keldon Johnson and Vassell are older than most of our players but the other guys the Spurs give minutes to are all under 26 and meanwhile we give A LOT of minutes to older players. 37yr old Jeff Green played nearly as many minutes as Amen Thompson. ....seriously dude, are you trolling? ...because at this point you are either a complete ******* or are just embarrassing yourself standing by something you are blatantly wrong about that you can't seem to comprehend even when presented with the evidence in black and white. It's not debateable - it's right there. One number is bigger than the other. There is no argument there - its just facts, dude. I did the math - the Spurs give 81% of their available minutes to guys 24 or younger. Houston gives 50% of their available minutes to guys 24 or younger. End of story - stop trolling like there is some nuance there.
Of course his shooting percentages are higher, Sengun's a paint player, Wemby shoots from everywhere and does things like fadeaways and 3pt attempts lol. Literally the only thing Sengun does better is get assists, he's inferior in every other way as an offensive and defensive player.
Anywho, you guys should stop looking at each others dicks. Wemby and Goon would have made the duo from hell, but it didn’t happen. I’m perfectly happy with Amen and all our current players. Let’s go get them. GO ROX
I dont care if you did the math the Rockets are still younger and less experienced than the Spurs. The fact that none of the Core 7 are 23 should tell you that. You did all that math to see FVV played a lot of mins? No **** sherlock! FVV playing a lot of minutes doesnt mean Amen Thompson is now experienced. You get that or no? You can cry all you want about the Spurs I dont give a crap just dont tell me Wemby is such a game changer when the record pre and post him with literally the same team minus Jacob Poetl is the same.
If you go by game easily Alperen, if you go by professionalism and vet leadership my favourite would be Jeff Green.
If Alperen still has 2 gears to go to, Wemby probably has 6 or 8, he is that raw. He almost caught up to Alpe in 1 friggin season. Physical tools just too surreal.
I think Wemby will be the overall better player but I don't think peak Wemby will be a better offensive player than peak Sengun fwiw. Wemby is just such a game changer defensively. Everyone's pretty gassed up on Wemby but he'll never be the offensive player Jokic or Curry or even Doncic are.
I love Alpi, I really do, but he's already an inferior offensive player to Wemby, and it's not close. He scores more points, from more areas on the court, has way better shooting stroke and agility with the ball. The only thing Sengun does better is pass. I don't know how you can remotely claim Alpi's better on offense when he was the entire focus of our offense and still scored less points in more minutes than Wemby. It's pure homerism.
