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2024 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Apr 4, 2024.

  1. raining threes

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    I think Loperfido cuts down on his strikeout rate some as he gets adjusted to MLB pitching and he does hit the ball hard consistently, so while babip while falling some, will be better than some think because of natural progression.
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    Yes, that was a joke post.

    All I remember about either in CF was Berkman's epic stumblef**k catch on Tal's Hill and Biggio needing a cutoff man to get the ball to the cutoff man to get the ball to the IF...dudes were tagging and taking 2 bases on Biggio on routine fly balls, even when he was in LF
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Instincts, range and glove matter too
     
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  4. Buck Turgidson

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  5. raining threes

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    Yes they do, but 3rd best in MLB with that arm?

    Another case where numbers dont tell the whole story.
     
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  6. Buck Turgidson

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    Of course, and like I said it was one random statcast metric.

    I don't watch enough of the other 29 teams (because you would pretty much have to watch them at least half their games) to have a proper opinion about their CFers...what do you think?

    ...And for the record, I have shat on Jake's arm ever since his shoulder got trashed.
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    run to the right, run to the left, try to turn around, then hit the hill and say to self "don't fall down don't fall down don't fall down"
     
  8. lnchan

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    At least he can catch the balls to prevent baserunners in the first place.
     
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  10. raining threes

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    Most CF can. Even if Meyers is better than most at chasing balls down, a CF with that arm ain't a top 3 MLB CF. I dont care what metrics you use, those guys are elite CF, Meyers isn't close to that level of an OF.

    Meyers hitting .250 makes him a fringe everyday player, because he can chase balls down.
     
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  11. IdStrosfan

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    I have always felt that Meyers and Chas are too similar to ideally be on the same team.

    I have also always felt Meyers has the higher ceiling and would end up the better player.

    I have never been high on Chas, but was very happy that he had a breakout last year and still hope that it sticks.

    I was pissed and frustrated when Dusty sat Chas on the bench last year because 1) he was raking 2) Dubon is not an outfielder and 3) Julks is not a major leaguer.

    Those are very similar reasins as to why Meyers should be playing over him this year.

    I admit that Chas is much more accomplished with the bat, but feel Meyers outpaces him In every other area and has out hit him this year.

    Both of them should play vs LHSP but with Yordan playing more LF, Tucker entrenched in RF, and Loperfido needing starts vs RHSP there isn't much room for both, and Meyers is my choice.
     
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    These guys are 28 and 29, they are who they are at this point. Meyers is having his best season with the bat and still isn't as good as Chas's career numbers.

    I don't know how you can say "every other area" when Meyers has real weaknesses in his throwing arm and isn't a good baserunner. He's fast and covers a lot of ground in center, but McCormick is also a solid fielder with a better arm.

    I think you're just fixated on the speedy CF. I thought Meyers was it, before the injury in 2021. I don't think his shoulder has ever fully recovered.
     
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    Chas has a worse arm than Jake. Look it up.
     
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    This year, yes, but not by much. Historically, no.
     
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    Loperfido shouldn’t be jumping Chas or the light hitting Meyers quite yet. His BABIP is ridiculously unsustainable. If on August 1st chas is still struggling, plug Loperfido in full time if he’s playing well. That goes for meyers too, if he’s the one struggling
     
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    He’s got a 590 babip. Probably your best case is 350 (300 is sort of average- give him some benefit of the doubt for hard hit balls and being fast/athletic.
    If he cuts it down to 30% strike outs and could sustain a 330 babip and hit 20 HR’s that’s a 250 average. He better walk a little more than he is right now but that could be a decent player. It’s completely unworkable at 40% k percentage. He k’d 28% of the time repeating AAA at what- 25 years old? It’s unlikely he does much better than 30% so he better start hitting some HR’s and walking a little more in addition to K’ing less.
    Like I said- I like him because I could see all those things happening- but I’d bet against Chas’ production career to date.
     
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    Historically Jake has had a busted shoulder 2 years.
     
  18. Wulaw Horn

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    Not only that but also special awareness/path to the ball. Maybe you mean that by instincts but my thought on instincts is jump off the bat. Range is how far you go. The other is path to the ball.
     
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  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Yeah, that's mostly what I meant by instincts...reading the ball off the bat, knowing where it will go before it goes there, and getting there in the most efficient way possible (that might be playing it off a wall and not catching it outright). Jake is very, very good at this stuff, nerfgun arm be damned.
     
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  20. Tomstro

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    TB just went up on Sea in the 8th
     
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