What Chas did last year is not going to win games this year. Playing Chas more because of his history is ( by definition) "back of the baseball card" thinking.
The proof is in the numbers that you don’t provide. Chas has been better every year. This year, chas has battled injury and a slow start. Saying that 29 year old Chas is on the way down just because of that is silly and it’s jake fanboy stuff. Chas had an .842 OPS last year and stole 19 bases and it was only semi full time. He could’ve easily had 30 homers last year if Dusty didn’t **** with him so much. Meyers has never shown that ability. Go to your savant page all you want. On the field, Chas has been better. The numbers prove it.
So now I'm not providing the right numbers. I don't have time to keep this up. You think Chas should start most games because he has been good in the past. You think Chas is a better player than Jake and say there are numbers out there that prove it and I'm intentionally not using them but won't give them yourself. Cool. I think Jake should start most games because he is currently showing he is good AND all the expected metrics show he SHOULD be better and will likely continue being better. Now I am waiting to hear what I am wrong about in those statements.
Amazing that you were by jakes side the whole 2 years that he sucked. As soon as Chas struggles, with sporadic playing time and an injury, for just 40 games or so - you act like he’s washed up at 29. Why are you like that? Be fair. Don’t root against Astro players because you have a crush on another who hasn’t performed as well. Chas has had a raw deal. Again, I think they should both start.
Well for starters, you do provide the wrong numbers. Provide me the numbers where Jake has an .842 OPS over a full season. again, I think they should both start
You *clearly* exaggerate with words. How is a player "falling fast" as a fielder when he's 3 percentile points lower from the previous season in FUV, seven points less in arm value, and only 3mph lower in arm throw? The next long throw Jake makes, will be his first. Their arm/throw values are basically the same. Speed/baserunning isn't coming to fruition if Jake is 60 points higher, considering their SB% are basically the same. Regardless, I think (eye-test) Chas and Meyers are basically the same guy -- neither player is *clearly* better than the other. Does Jake have family in Boise?
Altuve 2B Tucker RF Bregman 3B Yordan DH Diaz C Meyers CF Pena SS Dubon/singleton/joey 1B McCormick LF play Loperfido 2 games a week at 1B and 2 games a week in the OF. If Singleton struggles, play Loper at 1B more. DH him once in a while. He can still get his playing time. If, by August 1, Chas is still struggling or if Meyers or singleton are struggling, plug Looerfido in full time if he is playing well. That’s called earning your spot. You can do all this and still give Yordan a few starts in LF. One of these outfielders is gonna get traded anyway.
1. Chas has averaged 3.5 fWAR per/600 PAs since being called up. I don't care about perception as a prospect. If your 1st point is based on prospect status for a guy in his 4th MLB year, that has produced as well as Chas, it looks like hate to me. 2. Chas's spring speed is actually up this year from last year, and only 0.2 down from his rookie year and pretty close to Meyers's this year. On defensive value going down, yep, he's gotten worse. Meyers playing centerfield is also costing Chas a lot of defensive value. 3. I get that Meyers was hurt in 2022 and that likely impacted his ability in 2023. 4. Yes, Meyers is a very good player. Chas has a very good lead in fWAR and his career wRC+ is better than Meyers's best season of wRC+. I like both guys. I trust Chas's bat a little more (post ASB, I'd say odds are Chas is the better hitter), but Meyers is the better defender (I'd give Meyers a slight edge on upside). On 12 WAR in 6 years, Chas would likely be already pushing in double digits if Dusty wasn't an idiot. Going forward, I think they are probably close players in terms of skill, but that Meyers will likely produce more fWAR as long as they are both Astros as Meyers being the better defender will play CF. On Chas being only the bat, his defense is still above average (i.e., still good enough to play CF), but being muted in LF (a below average defensive adjustment). I like guys like Chas and Meyers that produce both with the bat and in the field even if the bat is only average or slightly above average.
No to mention having two good OFs out there makes it a lot easier to carry an all-bat type corner OF with limited range.
They are both above average MLB CFers. Those guys don’t grow on trees even if they aren’t super “special”
I believe Loperfido is going to be better than both of them. He just needs a chance. Hopefully they split time with Chas/Loperfido in LF and play Loperfido some at 1B with Dubon. Also looking at the trade market to upgrade the OF/1B should be an option. They can get by without doing anything on offense., but upgrades would be nice. What Dana really has to do is add a SP like Lorenzen and a leverage RP.
and likely the Biggio CF games. How Biggio avoided hamstring injuries that late in his career is a certified mystery.
I dont know what the numbers you're looking at, but Jake has been avg this yr, Chas has been below avg and injured. That's just the eye test IMHO. Both are easily replaceable, Chas is more likely to improve as he gets healthy. At no time should both be regulars in the OF together and should be upgraded on at the deadline IMHO. Both aren't bad players, but you cant start both and win a championship IMHO.
Adjusted for playing time, and by a single statcast metric (success rate, whatever that is), Jake is the 3rd best defensive CF in MLB this year https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/lead...=q&pos=8&roles=&viz=hide&sort=13&sortDir=desc
Both posted negative dWAR, fwiw. Berkman was younger when he played CF/OF, years 26-38. Biggio was years 37 and 38. I seriously doubt that Berkman could play a passable OF at ages 37 and 38.
He won’t be better if he keeps striking out 35 or 40% of the time. His babip won’t stay over 500 forever no matter how hard he hits the ball. I like Loperfido btw. There’s just a good chance he doesn’t outshine what Chas did in the first 3 years of his career which was to be an above average player.
