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We have to trade Sengun

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by PatBev, May 12, 2024.

  1. coachbadlee

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    Stop that right now!! I have never, ever called Alperen trash! How dare you insult my ignorance in such a way!
     
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    There’s no emotion in my response at all.
    Just pure incredulity in some of the takes about trading the Rockets best player.

    That is what you said about the wings.
     
  3. cmoak1982

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    So you think cherry picking some bad plays trumps a season worth of analytics from professionals?
    The ego on you lol.
     
  4. coachbadlee

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    No he wasn't. They won 2, he got hurt and then Green took over the rest of the 8-9 games of that streak. Not saying they wouldn't have done it with him. Just saying the fact that they did it without him shows that we dont need him. We can cash in on Alpi now and turn this team into a defensive juggernaut.
     
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  5. Stephen_A

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    Whatever u say bud.

    I look at things analytically from my knowledge of playing basketball and being around basketball that’s all. Just a regular dude. Im not a professional scout but what do you think scouts do? They interpret through knowledge and experience. I can look at video and tell you what’s right and what’s wrong but that’s just through my knowledge which is obviously way more limited than professional scouts and coaches. But its still from knowledge not bias or not assumptions or emotions. I wished people on here post videos they edited and show us what they mean when they Sengun is a great defender or when Jalen Sucks or when Cam doesn’t play defense.
     
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    It has nothing to do with bad plays, imo. It has everything to do with the good play after Alpis departure.
     
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    Incorrect on literally everything in this post.
    And with Alp the team was top 10 in defense.
    Better with him than without.

    The team was really good when Green was a net negative as well.
    So maybe we should trade him and get people that make shots, since that’s actually what the teams weakness is
     
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    Terrible defense after he got hurt.
    And against some of the worst teams in the league
     
  9. Stephen_A

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    Who said anything about cherry picking? What professionals are you talking about? Analytics have nothing to do with people that played the game or observed with their eyes through knowledge of the game. Analytics paint part of the story through averages, projections, ratings etc and doesn’t tell you how a player attains those numbers physically and in real time in terms of decision making, effort, and teamwork etc. That’s why you need qualitative and quantitative analysis. It’s ridiculously flawed to only base your analysis off metrics let a lone a few arbitrary ones you use to form an argument
     
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    You think you’re the only person that has played basketball or been around sports? lol

    And there’s plenty of posts and analytics backing up defensive claims. You and others refuse to believe it with your subjective view of what a center should “look” like.
     
  11. cmoak1982

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    Cherry picking is what you’re going to do. You aren’t going to find a long list of plays showing bad defense. The numbers don’t back it up.
    And stop with the “I played basketball” rhetoric. You have no idea what others have done
     
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    Defensive Juggernaut? Lol.
    This means you’re trading Sengun & Green. Green’s defensive BBIQ is in constant question if you actually watch games. How about we keep putting good players on the roster around these guys that complement their talent.
     
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    Jalens play at the end of last season was just what we had been waiting for.
    Cambreezys shooting in his rookie season was better than what we expected. He will only get better.
    Jabaris end of game shooting was on par with him getting better.
    Aquaman is still a starting caliber big man.
    Trade Alpi now while he's hot.
    Somebody give Tillman a beer and the mic!

    Pray for Sarr and Carter!!!
     
  15. Stephen_A

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    I never said that. You did once again. You really have an issue with misinterpreting what I say and putting words in mouth. Lots of assumptions. Which tells me you assume a lot when it comes to assessing players like Sengun
     
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    Yeah! Let’s go off a ten game stretch (against lesser teams) and ignore the rest of the season.
    Thank god you’re not in charge
     
  17. coachbadlee

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    I said nothing about trading Humper.
     
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    No one is putting words in your mouth.
    Or misinterpreting anything you say.
    You said when you can edit videos to show “lack of defense”
    The issue is the editing, that is literally hunting down bad plays without context or any knowledge of defensive schemes.
    Anyone can do the same showing great defensive plays.
    Bottom line is the numbers and analytics don’t agree with you.
    The fact you can’t understand that completely discredits any supposed “knowledge” you think you may have
     
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    Then you don’t know ball
     
  20. Stephen_A

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    Lol you do realize its ok to have different viewpoints right? Lmao you are emotional because i never disrespected Sengun but go on rants on how you think i want him traded or how I should believe he’s a good defender or how im not the only one who played ball here lol. This is too much. Just simply my opinion that has harmed no one
     

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