Houston offered "several" Nets picks to Brooklyn for Mikal Bridges

The Rockets need to leave the Nets alone. Let them be delusional and move on.

 

That's kind of the problem. The Rockets are also delusional about the value of Bridges. They are only saved by the fact that they are only the 2nd most delusional team about him.

 

The Rockets aren't delusional. They kniow that Bridges is better than Brooks. And they also know that by holding the Nets picks, they have leverage over them. The Nets picks have more value to the Nets than they do to any other team in the league, which means the Rockets can possibly squeeze the Nets for a more valuable return. And the Phoenix picks being further out would allow the Rockets more time to find a suitable trade to include those picks in. As long as Bridges is a Net and the Rockets own their picks, they should continue to revisit that offer as often as possible.

 

Who in the hell would want Ben Simmons

 

Oh heck yes...
Brooks + BRK 2026 FRP + 2027 BRK FRP (swap) to Nets for Bridges + 2027 PHX + 2029 PHX

 

Expiring contract = Hornets have hella cap space next summer in exchange for a player (Bridges) that they can replace with Brandon Miller

Huge backcourt (TWSS) with Ball & Simmons (in a battle to see who can stay healthy)

 

The problem isn't the asset evaluation part of the deal but what does Bridges bring part of the deal. If the Rockets trade for Bridges, they aren't going to have enough to land an actual star due to their own picks/swaps going to OKC these next 3 years. If the Rockets already have two budding stars on hand this trade would make sense. but as it stands now, the Rockets have one, and even Sengun still needs to improve to be considered a star for a contending team. So if none of the other youngsters take a major step up into stardom, this trade would put the Rockets into mediocrity for the forseeable future. Especially if they decide to extend him after this contract into his 30s.

To me that's the delusional part, where Tilman believes this is now a contending core and they only need to add pieces around them.

 

The deal is for Bridges and the Phoenix picks. They do this for the Phoenix picks more than for Bridges. If you aren’t factoring in us getting those picks, then I understand stance. It’s also a hard NO for me without those picks.

 

I actually have more faith in Brooklyn sucking the next few years than I do in Phoenix crapping out down the line. For some reason, I just see Phoenix keeping booker and staying relevant the next 4 to 5 seasons. And by relevant, I mean winning 48 games.

Brooklyn is It’s going to have a very hard time, climbing out of the gutter the next couple years in my opinion.

That being said, one huge benefit to a deal like y’all are discussing is just the fact that we lock in the 2025 Brooklyn pick as a top 5 imo.

 

If Stone is putting that kind of offer out there then he's more delusional than most fans here in terms of trade proposals where the Rockets put together a pupu platter to get another team's star. Because no team is giving up as much value as Bridges for essentially a neutral pick swap, just for the privilege of being able to tank. Bridges for all his faults is getting the Nets more stuff than Siakam and OG got for the Raptors last year just on the basis of his 2-year contract (or 2+ years if we're talking about his value last trade deadline).

 

I do the deal if Sheppard is gone by #3 for some weird whacky reason. Nobody else in the draft is going to help us win next year. But banking on Phoenix sucking in 2027 and 2029 is a big gamble considering Booker will still be in his prime and it shouldn't be too hard to throw max money at some half decent FA. Brooklyn being bad next year is almost a guarantee and next years draft is a superior one. You want lotto tickets for next years draft.

Another thing to keep in mind when trading for such far out picks is that any GM that doesn't have a golden chair isn't likely to do a deal that will help the next GM out.. They need to win to keep their jobs as well.

 

They arent a neutral pick swap because Nets can tank if they own their picks. They can choose to be bad the next 3 yrs and then if they do s good job they can be full of young talent like Rox in just 3 yrs. Because of this the Nets picks provide more value to them than picks from other teams they dont control.

The PHX picks are owned by PHX and PHX will do everything not to be bad. Unlike the Nets though PHX has two superstars including Devin Booker who will still be in his prime when those picks start conveying. They may not be contenders but I dont see them being so bad they get the 3rd pick loke what happened with the Nets.

 

Please keep the Nets picks so we get several more chances on the lottery. They already got lucky once. It may very well happen again.

 

Good discussion going on in here

 

You're thinking like a fan or a 2K player not as a GM. Tanking is always last resort for an owner, because unlike fans he can't just tune out the team for 3 years until it's good again. The only owner that has seemed to embrace that was the Sixers owner with Hinkie and look where that got Hinkie. If you want to say this is the best path for the Nets to be a contender in 5 years, I may be inclined to agree with you. But if you want to say this is a realistic trade in real life, then the answer is that this would never get approved by any owner. Just look at what Morey had to do to build around Scola and Lowry because Les won't let him tank. No GM can sell the "well we don't gain assets but now we can suck again" plan and not get fired.

 

Free agency barely exists anymore. If they aren’t winning championships, GMs want assets in their coffers. There is no way to predict how good or bad a team will be whose 2030 pick you own. So GMs don’t see those as some future all-star player. They are simply currency to be used in the present. While it looks like the 2025 Nets pick will be higher than the 2027 Suns pick, I guarantee Stone would rather have that Suns pick. For trading purposes, that Suns pick remains a mystery box for much longer, while once that pick is made, he has actual contract value and may or may not be at a position that your trade partner can use. Actual players really muck things up. Stone doesn’t want to make that 2025 pick. He wants to keep it as a mystery prize for a little while longer.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-new-c...rategy-beginning-to-take-shape-232824674.html

So, what could be the next big swing on the Jazz’s radar? Brooklyn Netsswingman Mikal Bridges, according to league sources, is a player to monitor among Utah’s most aggressive aspirations. The Jazz are said to be right in the mix with Houston, holding the No. 3 pick, and New York, where three of Bridges’ college teammates currently play, among the teams that continue to check with Brooklyn about the availability of its 27-year-old swingman. The Jazz have substantial salaries for veterans John Collins($26.5 million) and Jordan Clarkson ($14 million) to send out in any possible deal, in addition to trading into their own cap room.

Teams picking behind Houston maintain the team is motivated to move its No. 3 selection for win-now upgrades, as the team is expected to pick up the team option for Jae’Sean Tate and guarantee the salaries of Jeff Greenand Jock Landale, sources said, as potential outgoing money in trade packages.

 

Now that we have lost one year's opportunity for Bridges to help us make the playoffs, and the pick has jumped to #3 from 9 or 10 when the original proposal was made, I don't think I would even have that pick on the table in any talks with the Nets.