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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Nope. Have never and will never vote for Trump.
    I don't support Trump, I will be voting Libertarian, again.
     
  2. deb4rockets

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    You defend him at every turn, whether you vote Libertarian or not. In fact, you said Trump the psycho felon is a better man to run the country than Biden, which makes me question your belief in the importance of law and order in this country that everyone should follow.
     
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  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I was better off under Trump that Biden. I don't think either one of them should run the country, and I think it is sad that those are the candidates that are advanced by the two biggest parties in America.
     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    Then Americans should be happy with Biden, since removals have increased under his presidency.

    Of course, trump's vague idiotic plan that he is campaigning on his not only impossible, but would destroy our economy. But people that support him don't really care.
     
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  5. Astrodome

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    From your perspective, has Joe done a good job securing the border?
     
  6. deb4rockets

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    So it's all about you, not the country being run by a white collar criminal and felon, who is a compulsive lying psychopath that spits on the same laws the rest of us are held accountable to follow. I think that's probably not uncommon amongst other more entitled folks who don't care if they support a criminal if he can make them wealthier. Screw the rest of America.
     
  7. StupidMoniker

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    My evaluation of which of two choices I would prefer is based on my own perspective. Yes. Crazy, I know. I really should be more concerned about whether or not someone had sex with someone else and tried to cover it up instead of actual policy decisions that impact me. Why would I care that my money is worth less now than it was before when someone had improper labelling of his hush money payments to a p*rn star!?!
     
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    Funny how you left out why should I care if the guy is a compulsive liar, that he tried to steal an election by inserting fake electors, begging for a few extra votes, or incited a coup. Funny how you left out the facts that the guy took boxes and boxes of highly classified documents to his personal home and country club, where plenty of people wined and dined and had access to them. Funny how you left out the fact that he obstructed justice, and didn't turn them in when asked to for months. In fact, he lied about having them. Funny how you left out the fact that he is a white collar criminal who was convicted of rape and accused of assault by more than 22 women. Funny how you left out the fact that he has most of the traits of a psychopath.

    Again, you go back to your reasoning that those things didn't affect you. That's like saying just because some guy broke into a business and stole thousands of dollars of goods doesn't matter, because it didn't affect you personally. Who cares if he's a felon if he cuts my taxes? It didn't affect me personally. Or, hey, I don't care if that guy lies his a*s off, and can't be trusted with our nation's secrets, surrounds himself with criminals he pardons for favors, tries to manipulate the votes of the people, and wants to rule more like a dictator/authoritarian. SMH at the selfish logic.
     
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  9. StupidMoniker

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    If he is found guilty of crimes, he should suffer the same prescribed penalties as everyone else. I am not going to suddenly decide that I want big government and identity politics because one party nominates Trump. The Democrats are anti-libertarian, and so I will never support them. The personal foibles of their opponent are meaningless to me in comparison, especially when I am not voting for him either.
     
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    He's already being treated differently than anyone else would be under the same circumstances that wasn't white and privileged. Nobody else would be getting it off so easy without spending a single night in jail for being indicted for 88 felonies in 4 different states, and getting delay after delay after delay to keep him from going to court for 3 more trials.
     
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    From my perspective? Years ago I posted solutions to the immigration and border problems. Biden supported the bipartisan solution that contained a good deal what I posted (for example more money spent on hiring more border patrol enforcement officers and judges which will speed up enforcement, more money spent on technology, more money spent on strengthening existing barriers, working with Mexico and other countries to help reduce the flow through and from their countries, stricter enforcement on hiring to reduce the attraction to undocumented workers).

    Unfortunately, trump influenced his maga congressmen to oppose this comprehensive bipartisan bill so that he would be able to run on immigration. You support trump and apparently, don't want something done to reduce the problem.
     
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    Always laughable the ways you twist into a pretzel to support your fellow republican candidates and especially trump.

    He didn't just have sex with someone else and then try to cover it up. It wasn't just improper labeling of payments to a p*rn star. While those may be how trump is trying to spin this and of course, how you agree with him. But trump was found guilty by a jury of falsifying business records. He did so to avoid losing the election. Not simply covering up his affair. Not an accounting error of "mislabeling".
     
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    They should have spit that thing out before 2024. And it didn't need all of that fat. Biden and his congress had their chance and sat on their hands.
     
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    you claim to be a lawyer working in the DA's office.

    yet you refuse to acknowledge the 34 crimes that the trust fund baby had committed.
     
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    What "fat" are you talking about? Thousands of more agents? Also you realize to pass a immigration bill you need 60 votes in the senate as we have a filibuster right? When did dems have 60 seats in the senate?
     
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    You keep claiming your money is worth less but average person is making alot more now than ever before nd has alot more in savings then ever. Savings are up 30% since 2019
     
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    You asked the question. I gave you a complete answer. And you obviously didn't care, nor do you actually want to solve the immigration problem. Which is why we have an immigration problem.
     
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  19. StupidMoniker

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    What business records did he falsify? Wasn't it the repayments to his lawyer who had paid off the p*rn star? The falsification of the records being labelling those payments as "legal expenses"? How is that not mislabeling payments to cover up an affair?
    I'm pretty sure I did acknowledge it, in fact you quoted my acknowledgement in the post I am responding to. His 34 crimes he was convicted of were labeling reimbursements to his lawyer who had made hush money payments to a p*rn star as "legal expenses". Acknowledged.
    That's nice for them. My county had approximately 17% salary increase since 2020 (raises of 3%, 3%, 7%, and 3%, which totals 16.9% with the compounding effect) and inflation is at 21.4% over the same period Inflation Calculator | Find US Dollar's Value From 1913-2024 (usinflationcalculator.com). That means my salary is effectively lower since 2020. I'm also paying a (slightly) higher effective tax rate.
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    trump's defense and the prosecution both made their cases to a jury which found trump guilt. Perhaps you want to join the trump defense team for his appeal.

    What was Trump convicted of? Details on the 34 counts and his guilty verdict
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-charges-conviction-guilty-verdict/

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