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Case to Draft Reed Sheppard at #3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Medicine N Music, May 20, 2024.

  1. Mad Cornbread

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    If none of our guys can shoot won't they just make sure they cover the usually most undersized best shooter on the court?...........
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    So you would not have drafted Steph Curry, or Steve Nash.

    DD
     
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  3. hlmbasketball

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    On the contrary, I have seen both Reed and Jimmer play and I have watched tape on both.

    Reed is nowhere near Steph nor the Pasty Gangster, John Stockton. You guys keep making it a COLOR COMPARISON, when its not. I guess there are some things you all want to get off your chest but for some reason, it keeps coming back to COLOR!

    Its about what the players bring to the game of basketball that's similar.

    Stockton had handles, they were basic handles, conservative handles but he was good at handling the ball. Steph is undoubtedly more flashy but he has good handles too. Stockton was a pure floor general, i.e, a CP3 Type. Steph is more of a modern day scoring type PG, a classic tweener, who can get his shot off anywhere......THAT IS NOT REED SHEPPARD

    Reed is a tweener that needs help to get open. If you look at his tape, he is more of a Spot up shooter. At 6'2! In the NBA, that equates to a Role Player. I have nothing against picking him but not at #3.

    Players like that can be had in FA for much cheaper.
     
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  4. hlmbasketball

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    Good question!! If you look at the post I just made explaining why Steph is and was different at the time! He had supreme handles in college, he was able to get his shot off, all while being the FOCAL POINT at Davidson and check this out....HE WAS CONSISTENT!

    Reed had too many games of 3pts, 5pts, 6 pts and alike. And to say he was not the focal point/main player on their team and to have games that underwhelming speaks volumes.

    His ONLY job was to come off the bench and produce points! And he had 10 underwhelming games, including the NCAA TOURNAMENT Game.....Come on guys, think!
     
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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    That's fine, it really could be that you simply have no clue what you're seeing when you try to watch basketball.

    I didn't mean to exclude that possibility.
     
  6. coachbadlee

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    If Clingan/Sarr and Sheppard are there at 3, you all can kiss Reed goodbye.
     
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    With today's holiday, I've had a little more time to look at Sarr, Risacher, Clingan, Castle, and Buzelis who are also likely Top 5 potential picks. Comments below are focused on how they could contribute to our Rockets.

    - Sarr: Intriguing size, length, lateral movement, and defensive instincts. He's got phenomenal movement skills on the perimeter and would be an asset to our team, once he understands are defensive philosophy/scheme. Offensively, he's improved his shooting over the last 3 years, but still has a way to go. His mid-range touch is encouraging and he's got good court vision as a passer. Active mover, looks for ways to get open. Would love to see him spend time at RGV early on to work on his overall game if he somehow slips to #3. Sarr, Bari and Tari would give an almost elite defensive frontline for special situations, especially in the playoffs. With that said, I think the likelihood he goes 1 or 2 are higher for him then any other prospect in this draft.

    - Risacher: Liked his tape better than I thought I would. Good shooter, defender, and cutter (latter would work well with Sengun's passing). Not really a playmaker and needs to work on his decision making there. His athletic testing may cause some teams to reevaluate this potential. I could see him being there at #3, and potentially fall further. He would give us more size and shooting at 3, but not sure he has flexibility or bulk to play much 4.

    - Clingan: I didn't love his tape, he's a massive space eater that moves like an elephant on the court. He'll impact shots around the rim and likely be a very good rebounder, but I'm not seeing why he's getting the Top 5 love. He didn't play a lot of minutes and his offensive game looks immature. They highlighted his passing potential, but I actually like what Sarr brings there better. I hope the Rockets don't take him.

    - Castle: Very good positional defender--doesn't give up and takes pride in shutting guys down. After reviewing his tape, I can see why some folks are saying he's a poor man's Amen. Doesn't have Amen's athletic gifts, but plays hard and smart on defense. On offense, he looks like he'd be tailored made for the dunker role Amen played at the end of the season. His handle is limited and his shot needs work. Most of his "playmaking" were easy passes from a set position. I'm not seeing the refined PG skills, but perhaps he could develop them in 2-3 years. If Ime wants another defensive dawg for the perimeter that can't shoot and is limited offensively, Castle's the man.

    - Buzelis: Was an early favorite (along with Holland) to go #1 in this draft, but the disaster that was the Ignite impacted those dreams. He's interesting prospect for us because he combines size, athletic traits, with solid potential on both offense and defense. On offense, Matas is probably the one guy on this list with the most potential to be a 3-level scorer. Fundamental is shot mechanics and touch look fine. While his 3pt shooting took a massive drop from 43% in HS to I believe around 27% in the G-League. Some of that was adjusting to the distance difference in the HS to NBA line, it looked like he was shooting early with too much arc and adjusted that as the season progressed. As he gets stronger, his shot will likely be more consistent from longer range as well. He's got some dynamism to his game and could develop into something special with proper training and coaching. On defense, he's a great weakside helper and blocked a lot of shots this year doing that. He moves his feet pretty well also (not in the Sarr range) and should be able to hold his own when he adds some strength and matures. He's got some playmaking ability and handles the ball well for his size, but he needs to improve his decision-making as he forced a lot of shots and plays he really didn't need to. His self-creation skills need work. He likely is a 3/4 hybrid depending on how his body develops, but he may have the most upside next to Sarr in this group.

    While I'm still on the Shep train, I think if Sarr falls we have to take him at #3. If we don't get either of those guys Buzelis and then Risacher would be my next picks of the above. Really not feeling Clingan or Castle for either prospect potential, nor fit on our team.
     
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    That depends. Did any of those 2 come the bench in school?
     
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    Is it true that Reed has a punisher tattoo?
     
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    For me to clearly layout the distinct differences between Reed Sheppard and Steph and all you can come back with is, I have no clue what I am seeing. It's somewhat ridiculous.

    I would have said something to the effect of, Reed is only 19yrs old and he has time to improve his handles and working on getting his own shot. Sure, those are important qualities for a NBA Player.
    But the fact that he can shoot at a high clip is undeniable and why I think the Rockets should draft him with #3.

    At least learn how to present your arguement with some substance.
     
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    And you took the whole HOLIDAY to write it too. Lol

    Just joking! Good assessment
     
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    I don't feel the need to argue with those who are that far off base, there's not really a point. Either you can see it or you can't.

    If you watched the games, you saw that he can get his own shot any time he wanted to almost exactly like Curry did in college, but Sheppard stuck to the game plan and did what he was told to do....which wasn't to look to get his own shot all the time. You cite his handle as if that was a problem when it wasn't....

    You look to force a comparison to Jimmer Fredette despite the 2 players having nothing in common other than being 2 white guards who shot the 3 well....stylistically the 2 couldn't have been more different though.

    Like I said, talking to you is like talking to someone who never watched him play. If you have watched, it just means you aren't good at knowing what you are seeing when you watch basketball. It's no big deal.
     
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    Yes, as a Freshamn Nash came off the bench and had worse stats than Reed going against far inferior competition.
     
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    The closer the draft gets, the more concerned I am about Reed going 1 or 2.
     
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    Something doesn't seem right about those numbers...

    Wouldn't catch and shoot + off the dribble need to equal 144?

    Looks like two shots are being counted as catch and shoot and off the dribble. Maybe twice he caught the ball and took one dribble and shot so they counted them as both catch and shoot and off the dribble?
     
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    Stockton's handle were below average for his first couple of years. He always had the vision though. His assists came from what is now a staple on 90% of the league. Like FVV, like Stockton, Reed can be an assist Merchant with Sengun in the pick and roll once FVV gets old. I expect FVV, Sengun, Green and Amen to handle the play making for all of the heavy minutes the next 2 seasons. Plenty of time for Reed to be the understudy from the bench.
     
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    No one cares about that, get real.

    I mean Jalen didn't even start on his AAU team.

    Good god.

    DD
     
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    Someone mentioned Nash not starting as a rookie. Still, matters not.
     
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    Summary: the list begins and ends with Reed Sheppard.
     
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