1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2024 Astros Minor League Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Nov 6, 2023.

  1. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,181
    Likes Received:
    102,146
    Yeah, we're on the same page here.

    Schmidt and Brooks Robinson are the 2 best 3B in history, for me. Not sure where Adrian Beltre slots on the list, but pretty damn near the top.
     
  2. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,705
    Likes Received:
    131,986
    Brooks Robinson played during the dead ball era in the 70's, which a lot of people don't consider. Defensively he has to be the best.

    Adrian Beltre is an interesting guy. He was one of the biggest international prospects ever. He signed at like 14-15 with the Dodgers and was considered a disappointment until his last year in LA when he should have won the MVP. Then he signed with the Mariners and didn't hit all that well again.

    Once he was out of those pitching paradises, his bat exploded in Boston and Texas.... no one saw it coming either....

    Had he played his whole career in Texas or Boston or even Baltimore - he would have had 600 homers.

    I know Arenado has had a long run .... Rolen.... even Manny Machado....

    The other one I didn't get to see, but if you dive deep, you realize how incredibly good he was, is Ron Santo..

    Craig Nettles is forgotten as well.
     
  3. Kemahkeith

    Kemahkeith Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2018
    Messages:
    4,067
    Likes Received:
    5,635
    My wife is a NY native. She Grew up a Yankees fan until I converted her.
    She still has 2 Yankees Jerseys.
    Nettles and Munson
     
    IdStrosfan and Buck Turgidson like this.
  4. BlindHog

    BlindHog Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,185
    Likes Received:
    1,726
    I am a baseball fan and do not give a rats ass what color they are or what their economic status is. I hope the Astros never consider those things when evaluating players. It would be a sad day indeed.
     
  5. Kemahkeith

    Kemahkeith Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2018
    Messages:
    4,067
    Likes Received:
    5,635
    I don't think he was implying that.
    But I might be wrong.
     
    Nook likes this.
  6. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,181
    Likes Received:
    102,146
    "expanding the talent pool" was the point
     
    Nook and tellitlikeitis like this.
  7. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,716
    Likes Received:
    10,925
    I'm pretty sure this was said in reference to the good of the game.

    As a sport baseball needs kids from many different economic and geographic groups, and yes, sadly when any racial group has been declining in participation like American black players are, it's nice to see a few more.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,181
    Likes Received:
    102,146
    MLB made minority youth engagement a large point of emphasis for the past 2 decades or so.
     
  9. Hank McDowell

    Hank McDowell Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2002
    Messages:
    7,275
    Likes Received:
    11,958
    Buck Turgidson likes this.
  10. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    20,434
    Likes Received:
    12,924
  11. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    14,769
    Likes Received:
    23,984
    Pena, Santa, and Yeriel Santos all have looked pretty good this year. Guys to keep an eye on to see if the international pitching pipeline can keep churning em out.
     
    Nook, BlindHog and panamamyers like this.
  12. Radricky

    Radricky Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2020
    Messages:
    6,322
    Likes Received:
    10,121
  13. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    20,434
    Likes Received:
    12,924
  14. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    20,434
    Likes Received:
    12,924
  15. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,181
    Likes Received:
    102,146
    Was Framber pitching?
     
    crose and panamamyers like this.
  16. BlindHog

    BlindHog Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,185
    Likes Received:
    1,726
    What baseball needs is kids who love baseball. All the rest is politics and has no place in sports or the discussion thereof.
     
    No Worries likes this.
  17. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    20,434
    Likes Received:
    12,924
    Anyway, uh...

    Before his three-run blast, Nehomar Ochoa had a two-run single. Big night for him as he finished 3-5 with 5 RBI.

    Alimber Santa allowed three hits and struck out five over three scoreless as the Woodpeckers beat Delmarva 16-8.
     
  18. prospecthugger

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2018
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    1,409
    Alimber Santa is striking out half the hitters he faced and has a 22 to 1 K to BB ratio so far this year. 5 games is a really small sample size, but I don't think he's been this good before.
     
  19. panamamyers

    panamamyers Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2000
    Messages:
    1,626
    Likes Received:
    1,727
    Zobrist had 12 homers in 1263 plate appearances over three milb seasons which were ages 23-25. He did have more speed and positional versatility.

    Obviously the Wade Boggs comparison was a bit out there but it's just to say that you don't necessarily need power to be a legit 3rd baseman. The Boggs k rate was in a completely different era. Lots of people had k rates below 10% back in the 80s. Ken Oberkfell retired with nearly twice as many walks as strikeouts and had a better k% than Boggs.
    Tough to compare that era to now in terms of walks to strikeouts.

    No comparison is perfect but please do not get rid of will Wagner is all I'm asking the Astros to do.
     
    Snake Diggit likes this.
  20. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,716
    Likes Received:
    10,925
    I view Will Wagner like Mauricio Dubon, Jake Meyers, or a dozen other players.

    Useful but will never be a top 10 player on any given team and CERTAINLY not untouchable.

    If he brings back a potential all star trade him twice!!
     

Share This Page