If we draft Sheppard or Castle, what does that mean for Jalen Green?

If there really was that kind of a market for Jalen, he'd already be traded.

 

There is a very highly likelihood that Sheppard is better at guarding guards next season.

Sheppard will have a chance to get minutes if he shoots the ball well - because the Rockets struggle at that.

Yes, Green will be better at getting to the rim - but Sheppard will be fine there.

 

No. Green doesn't have a lot of value right now because he is close to free agency, and overall has not played well.

If Green were entering his second season, I would agree with you.

Also - the Hawks don't want another guard that doesn't defend or shoot well from the outside.

Green is ride or die for the Rockets - he either plays closer to like he has at his best, or they move him for very little later.

Last year the Rockets were willing to move Green in a deal for someone on the Nets roster - that tells us enough about his perceived value.

 

Great point. Also, in that vein: how many total championships Steve Kerr, Kenny Smith, and Derek Fisher have?
You need a piece like that in the backcourt 100 times over an ineffective "creator" who doesn’t give you anything on defense and winning fundamentals.

 

They kind of did that supersized 2 experiment last summer league but I don't think Cam is a guard at all. Not without some major, major development in handle and passing vision.

 

Shooting is the most important thing for SHOOTING guards.

SHOOTING guards aren't point guards.

 

I'm sure it was back in the 20th century when player positions and terminology had strict definitions.

 

What a weird statement given that you were the one saying Cam needed to brush up on his point guard skills to be a SHOOTING guard....

You were suggesting that he needed to fit the strict definition of a different position to be a SG and I just pointed out how that was ridiculous.

 

Very good point. I get those who worship shot creation bcse it's a premium skill in the NBA, but what is good about shot creation if it leads to a very inefficient scoring.

 

inefficient shot creation is just plain chucking

he's not no shot creator. he's a chucker

 

How are y’all still arguing stuff like this?

don’t you call yourself Rockets fans? If so haven’t you watched 95%+ of JGs games? If so… you clearly know he’s been subpar. Inefficient. Generally a detriment to wins. Then puts in like one solid post ASB streak a year. And that’s that.

it don’t matter who they draft. Ime isn’t missing the playoffs again. Slow start JG is seeing the bench… and quickly. And I’m not just talking about in the fourth quarter

oh, btw, people strongly under appreciate how much Jalen got back to sucking again the last 8 games of the season. Yes he was still putting up ok board and assist numbers but his efficiency fell off a cliff.

I’ve heard a ton of excuses for this. They were out of the playoffs so didn’t matter. He was tired Whatever. Still f’ing crazy to me. He was playing games. Did he just decide idgaf and went back to making less than 30% of his 3s cause why not? That seems dumb.

 

Green might not be KPJ but he is still very much a controversial player.

 

yeah Klay's handles and passing were great

 

I think Sheppard would be likelier to be an eventual FVV replacement some years down the line than a Jalen replacement.

If Jalen can become consistent, the lineup might eventually well be:

Reed
Jalen/Cam
Amen
Bari/Tari
Alpi

You would have some playmaking from all positions except the 4.

 

What would that mean for Jalen Green? It would mean he would need to come ready to play day 1 rather than waiting until after the ASB.

 

Don't you call yourself a Rocket fans?

Youngest rocket to reach 4000 pts with second place in franchise history being almost two years older...
It isn't providing wins yet at ages 19-22?

How about when he reaches the ripe old age of 23-24?


Also every youngster in the starting line up was a detriment:

https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/5092/onoff#tab-team_efficiency


https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/4865/onoff#tab-team_efficiency


https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/4879/onoff#tab-team_efficiency

 

If he remains as terrible at basketball as he's been the past 3 seasons, he'll be someone else's tank commander by the time he's 24.

I know you celebrate his chucking, and in fairness his chucking has lead to Jabari Smith and Amen Thompson...two guys we wouldn't have without Jalen being such a good tank commander, but when teams want to win, they can't have scrubs like Jalen Green acting as an anchor around the neck of the team.

 

With enough chunking there are a lot of players who can score a lot of points and Green was given the "green" light from day one. Even last year they forced the ball to him trying to jump start him for much of the season. It took until after the ASB for the jump start to work. The main problem with him is the inconsistency. I have high hopes he will finally put that behind him this year and start off strong. His future is in his own hands from here on out because I doubt they spend much time trying to jump start him this coming season.

 

Be more positive, we used to refer to SG Vernon Maxwell as a "volume shooter" when he averaged a scorching 41% from the field (33-34% from 3).

 

Or else the Vernon shooter.