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Case to Draft Reed Sheppard at #3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Medicine N Music, May 20, 2024.

  1. carl_herrera

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    I think we should all realize that being the 7th member of a core 7 is not the ideal scenario for basically every draftee.

    If you’re a wing, do you want to be behind all our wings? If you’re a big, do you want to be behind Sengun and Steven Adams?

    Rookies want to go somewhere with no competition so they can get the biggest second contract possible. This is going to be true of every top rookie.

    The real question will be if we get private workouts with the top guys - we’ll see.

    Also - nbadraft.net is not a good source generally, they publish some outlandish stuff.
     
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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Sure, but you would also say that Jalen Green is a good basketball player, so it's pretty much impossible to take you seriously.
     
  3. deb4rockets

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    I'm not sure he can't contribute to our depth, or that his shot proficiency, passing skills, court vision, and ability to steal the ball really well won't give him advantages other players lack. Using the same strategy over and over often gets the same results. Think outside the box.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    It's very simple. Does he get more playing time in SA or Houston?

    Regardless of how good you think he is, where does he get more playing time relatively?


    Sure Shepard can contribute to depth on the Rockets but Sheppard probably doesn't want to "contribute to depth". He wants to play 30 minutes a game as a starter as that is the way you get things like all rookie team awards and greater chances at a large second contract.

    The Spurs roster is far more suited for him to get those minutes.
     
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  5. deb4rockets

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    Ask Ime.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    What does this mean?

    I'm asking you between the Spurs and Rockets roster, which one gives him a better chance of being a day one starter getting 30 minutes a game?

    Is Tre Jones or FVV harder to supplant as a starter?
     
  7. cml750

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    That is definitely a possibility but it would not surprise me if he ends up at the 3, aka "point forward".

    Edit: I think a lot of decisons will be made this year based on Jalen. If he flames out Cam will be heir apparent at the 2 and Amen will be the 3 if we take Reed who would be the 1.
     
  8. MystikArkitect

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    There is no core 7 or core 6. There is Alperen Sengun and Amen Thompson. Everyone else has to earn their keep. The new rook included. No one else has shown anything close to consistency to guarantee that they're going to be absolute must haves down the road. The closest is Jabari Smith. Jalen is too inconsistent and small, Jabari thinks too much and doesn't get defensive rotations, Tari can't shoot and cant finish at the rim, and Cam can't pass and has terrible shot selection.

    Reed Sheppard today is probably a smarter more apt professional basketball player than these 4 guys. Our core is not established and I'm not sure why people keep regurgitating the "Core 6" nonsense. There is a Core 2 and next year we'll know if there's any others to add to that core.
     
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  9. deb4rockets

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    I have no idea what Ime will do, how much he will play him, or if Sheppard will adjust to the NBA rapidly, and end up being a starter down the road. We have a lot of guys right now with a lot to prove in keeping their roles moving forward. Nothing is set in stone if it doesn't make us playoff contenders. I don't care about SA. That has nothing to do with us.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    I don't think you get it.

    If you are Sheppard, and you want to maximize your chances of doing things like make all rookie teams which requires minutes on the court where do you think you'll have a higher chance of being able to do that?

    Do you know what we are debating? Like are you talking about something else?

    We are discussing what Sheppard would prefer SA over Houston.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Reed Sheppard was a bench player on a D1 team. To think you have an idea on how his "IQ" translates to NBA defenses based of that sample is absurd.

    There is a 1% chance that Shepard will come in already better than any of the core 6.


    I would say Sengun and then Green has shown the most.

    Amen came in expecting to be a guard and ended up playing the dunker spot. For all intents and purposes, that's disappointing because that means his ball handling abilities are less than advertised when we drafted him.
     
  12. carl_herrera

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    ?? I’m not making any claims about our players or their prominence in our plans.

    Externally however, every draftee will look at us and see we have 6 meaningful prospects on rookie contracts and they would be the 7th.

    That’s less desirable than being the only one, or one of 2-3 of them. There’s only so much second contract money to go around and that’s what agents will optimize for.

    Personally I still think we can draft whoever we want and they will be happy joining our group because we’re competitive, have good vibes, a good city, and a good coach.

    But before the draft every prospect and agent will softy try to navigate towards SAS or other spots where they have less between them and a max rookie extension.

    I wouldn’t be shocked if Clingan or Risacher don’t work out for us at all for example. Just guessing, no intel.
     
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    Now this? This isn't trolling, this guy actually is dumb enough to parrot the "bench player" BS without realizing how ignorant it makes him look.

    That's why those who are trolling about it are successful... there actually are people dumb enough to say that **** unironically.
     
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  14. fchowd0311

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    Also it's very telling you went this route.

    Remember the debate was why would Sheppard prefer SA to Houston. So your side rant about the Rockets not having a "core 6" seems like just opportunistic and not addressing the debate at hand.


    Regardless of whether you think the Rockets have a certain "core 6" is irrelevant to the fact that the Rockets repent depth is far deeper than the Spurs and I don't have to wax lyrical about "the core 6" to express this notion. I just can point to team record where the Rockets nearly doubled the Spurs.

    News flash... it's easier to become a starter on a 20 win team vs a 40 win team.


    It seems like you just used this specific debate to come in and spread your shitty narrative.


    Sheppard on the Rockets has to beat out FVV for a starting spot. Sheppard on the Spurs has to beat out Tyus Jones.

    It's really that simple.
     
  15. xtruroyaltyx

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    Jabari wanted to be drafted by Orlando, Paolo wanted Houston. Jalen wanted to go number one. Scoot felt like he was the best player and should go number 1.

    This stuff happens every year with prospects having preferred destinations. They're human. Even if true its not a big deal. They'll get drafted where they get drafted and go and play to the best of their abilities.
     
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    What if the Spurs just trade up to #2? (gotta think 4 & 35 for 2 would be enticing to Wizards)

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  17. xtruroyaltyx

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    You would think that at this point this would've been put to bed. Hard to take anything someone says serious at this point if they keep pushing the bench player non sense.
     
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    Then we take someone else.
     
  19. cheke64

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    Shep to the moon. Thanks to all you dumbasses hyping him up and arguing. Cost Stone another generational player



    2. REED SHEPPARD, SG, KENTUCKY (WASHINGTON WIZARDS)

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    Per CatsPause, Reed Sheppard joined John Wall (2010) and Anthony Davis (2012) as John Calipari's third USBWA National Freshman of the Year at Kentucky after averaging 12.5 points, 4.1 rebounds, 4.5 assists, and 2.5 steals in 28.9 minutes per game while shooting 53.6% from the floor, 52.1% from 3 and 83.1% from the free throw line off the bench. He was also named National Freshman of the Year by the NABC, CBS Sports, ESPN, and Dick Vitale in addition to being voted SEC Freshman of the Year and Second Team All-SEC by both the Associated Press and league coaches.
     
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  20. deb4rockets

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    This thread isn't titled "Where do draft prospects prefer to play?"
     

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