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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. Amiga

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    I haven’t kept up much. I believe there was a surge of far-right parties winning elections a few years ago. Then they started losing elections around the time of the Ukraine war. Now, are they winning again, or is this specific to the recent election in France?

    If there is indeed a global or Western trend, I would guess it points to some global force, perhaps manipulation by someone(s) for their benefit, or some significant global event.

    I still think local factors are much more relevant, and an election or two overseas doesn’t mean much here and vice versa. However, the ability to communicate widely within Western democracies today does increase the chance of global ideological or political trends.
     
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    I agree that Biden is old, says stupid and creepy stuff, and looks lost at times but this isn't close to the derangement that Trump spews out on a regular basis. When even many on the progressive side are painting this as a choice between the lesser of two evils this isn't as though Trump is Palpatine and Biden is Vader. Biden isn't remotely close to what we're seeing Trump saying and what he did. Biden looking lost on stage is nothing like suddenly during a campaign speech going into a rant about e-boats and sharks.

    Also this isn't something Trump just started doing but something he's been doing since at least 2015. So while Biden's engine might be getting old Trump hasn't been firing on all cylinders for years.
     
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    Joe Biden is obviously drugging up... on orange Gatorade. Can republicans not lie about anything?

     
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    That Wharton School of Business education and he doesn't now how long it takes to go 70 miles at about 2mph? The rest of that garbage is just more injecting bleach type of random stupid thoughts he always throws out there. No hope for him.
     
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    @Nook seems like you were wrong?
     
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    What I recall was10 years there was a wave off Right wing electoral success in Europe with Brexit being the most prominent. A lot of it seemed like it was driven by the vast amount of Syrian and other refugees.
     
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    This will cause a lot of people to flip out here.
     
  8. Os Trigonum

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    don't even care gif.gif
     
  9. Salvy

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    that's embarrassing, truly
     
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  11. Xopher

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    "Biden served as Benjamin Franklin Presidential Professor of the Practice at the University of Pennsylvania between his tenure as vice president and the start of his presidential campaign."
     
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  12. Os Trigonum

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    no, the cannon bullshitte
     
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    Not what biden said in the full clip. He literally says your assault rifles won't help overturning the government cuz the government has fighter jets. He's right you dipshit
     
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    Biden's "expertise" in constitutional law and the second amendment is also embarrassing. Not surprising, considering:

    Biden earned a Juris Doctor from Syracuse University College of Law in 1968. He ranked 76th in a class of 85 students after failing a course because he plagiarized a law review article for a paper he wrote in his first year at law school.
    more at the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden
     
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    Reported
     
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    What's embarrassing is pretending to be someone that youre not on a basketball forum. Come out of the closet and admit you're a dipshit MAGA
     
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    If only Reagan would have closed the border...
     
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    I also do not know what level or how extreme we are talking about. Since the previous posting by @Os Trigonum is probably an (America media) instant reflection of the French election, here is an article that talks about that and recent history.


    Trump is NOT America's Le Pen. He's worse

    JUNE 11, 2024, 1:25 PM ET

    The elections to the European Parliament are, for politics junkies, what the World Cup is for soccer fans. There are 27 countries with 27 different sets of parties—center-right, center-left, far right, far left, liberal, conservative, green—and 27 sets of statistics to peruse. Because these are not national elections, and because they do not usually change governments, voters often treat them experimentally, voting for parties they would not choose to run their countries, or else just voting in protest against whomever is in power, as Americans do in midterms. That makes them appealingly—or alarmingly—unpredictable.

    Ever since Brexit, the British no longer vote in the European Parliament, and they never cared much about it anyway. Americans have always been pretty hazy about the institution (except when it suddenly turns out to have massive regulatory powers). Still, Anglo-American media always need a shorthand to sum up this messy, nuanced, continent-wide horse race, and on the morning after Sunday’s vote, they found one: The Rise of the Far Right. And the follow-up talking point? America might head this way too.

    Now let me make it more complicated.

    When applied to France, the scary headlines were fair enough: Marine Le Pen’s anti-establishment, far-right National Rally party (which has in fact been a part of the French establishment for decades, though never in charge) swept the board, which in that system means it won about a third of the votes. This was clearly a protest vote; it was clearly aimed at the French president, Emmanuel Macron, and he responded in kind. He called a snap French parliamentary election, which will force French voters to decide if they really want Le Pen, not just to represent them in the European Parliament, but to run the country.

    He is betting that they do not. The rules are different in French national campaigns: The voting happens in two rounds, which means the winners have to get more than half the votes, not a third. If he’s wrong, Le Pen could be prime minister, but she would have to share power with Macron, who would have three years in which to make her life miserable. If he’s right, she loses again, as she has done many times before.

    Almost everywhere else, the banner headline was wrong. In Poland, the far-right former ruling party came second for the first time in a decade, beaten by the center-right current ruling party (whose government my husband, Radek Sikorski, serves in). In Hungary, a brand-new, insurgent center-right unexpectedly took votes away from Viktor Orbán’s autocratic ruling party. In Slovakia, the Netherlands, and even Italy and France, the center-left did better than in previous elections. In Scandinavia and Spain, the far right did worse.

    ...

    Donald Trump is not like these politicians. The former president is not tacking to the center, and he is not trying to appear less confrontational. Nor does he seek to embrace existing alliances. On the contrary, almost every day he sounds more extreme, more unhinged, and more dangerous. Meloni has not inspired her followers to block the results of an election. Le Pen does not rant about retribution and revenge. Wilders has agreed to be part of a coalition government, meaning that he can compromise with other political leaders, and has promised to put his notorious hostility to Muslims “on ice.” Even Orbán, who has gone the furthest in destroying his country’s institutions and who has rewritten Hungary’s constitution to benefit himself, doesn’t brag openly about wanting to be an autocrat. Trump does. People around him speak openly about wanting to destroy American democracy too. None of this seems to hurt him with voters, who appear to welcome this destructive, radical extremism, or at least not to mind it.

    American media clichés about Europe are wrong. In fact, the European far right is rising in some places, but falling in others. And we aren’t “in danger” of following European voters in an extremist direction, because we are already well past them. If Trump wins in November, America could radicalize Europe, not the other way around.
     
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    What the f***?
     

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