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  1. JuanValdez

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    No, don't realize. Paying no attention to his case. Doesn't really matter to me if he is acquitted or convicted.
     
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  2. JuanValdez

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    They should have forced him to actually divest from the company. But oh well.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    I've yet to figure out why this should matter at all.
     
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    Bcz the braindead MAGATs @AroundTheWorld talk about how biden has "weaponized" the DOJ but in reality his doj is bringing felony charges against the presidents son. The case that they're bringing against hunter is something they would never have brought against anyone else and the evidence if sketchy and has holes all over it.

    The case is so sketchy that the main evidence they're using (application form) doesn't even align with what the main witness said it looks like. We don't even know where the original application form is.
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    lol. they have video of the girlfriend/sister-in-law dumping the revolver in a dumpster some 11 days after the purchase, plus testimony and interviews with the guy who found the gun in the dumpster and took it home. The cocaine residue found on the gun was of course planted by the Russians
     
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  6. Os Trigonum

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    #SemaglutideForTheWin
     
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  7. astros123

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    I love how you keep spewing braindead talking points you read in a OPED by tunley. Again let me ask you for the tenth time. Where is the original application form in which the gun owner swears under oath he wrote Hunter's registration information on box 18b.

    The application form you keep posting and referring to has box 18b blank. A passport is not valid for a gun registration as the main form of ID as it lacks the person's address.

    Where is the original application with hunters information on box 18b.
     
  8. Os Trigonum

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    link should work for everyone

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-a-c...qtbavvdodg1&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    In a Competent Administration, Hunter’s Trial Wouldn’t Happen
    The gun charges are trivial next to the questions Team Biden hopes Americans won’t ask.
    By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
    June 7, 2024 at 4:40 pm ET

    In a widely published video from his laptop, Hunter Biden brandishes a gun that isn’t a Colt Cobra .38—so the public evidence already suggests a serial offender. Gun dealers and federal firearms regulators don’t know who’s a drug abuser. Only the drug abuser knows. That’s why the law imposes a questionnaire with stern penalties for lying—to deter a crime otherwise impossible to stop. This deterrence works, though, only if the law is enforced in those cases that reveal themselves.

    Even so, the younger Mr. Biden likely would have avoided jail on tax and gun offenses (and avoided the gun charges altogether) if he hadn’t walked awayfrom plea negotiations with his father’s Justice Department, at a time when he apparently thought he had unlimited private backing from a Hollywood millionaire. Any account today is disingenuous that doesn’t understand that Hunter sought this week’s trial or at least forced it to happen through some miscalculation that the Biden Justice Department would cave if push came to shove.

    Mr. Biden loves and supports his son, goes the White House line. By now, this is the only convenient stance given the situation Hunter has created. His offenses are real but hardly the crime of the century; letting them be front and center at least helps Mr. Biden’s own actions stay out of focus.

    These are simple facts that won’t be mentioned many other places.

    Hillary Clinton and the media kept calling Donald Trump an “illegitimate president” because of alleged Russian meddling in the close 2016 race. But Mr. Biden’s win was even narrower, just 44,000 votes in three states in the Electoral College. It’s far from provable that 51 former officials lying about the Hunter Biden laptop didn’t affect this outcome.

    Last week, in convicting Mr. Trump, a Manhattan prosecutor argued that 2016 voters had a legal “right” to know about his Stormy Daniels affair 10 years earlier. Hiding the affair amounted to possible “theft” of a close election under New York law, the prosecutor said.

    Really? How much more did 2020 voters have a right to the evidence about Biden family influence peddling during Joe’s vice presidency, which went directly to his fitness for office? Even more so after Mr. Biden (or somebody) was willing falsely to embroil a foreign power to cover up this family scandal, to portray a sitting U.S. president as the beneficiary of a corrupt Russian plot when Mr. Biden knew the laptop was genuine, to prostitute the U.S. intelligence community to sell his lie to the public?

    I understand Bidenites and the media believe anything was justified to defeat Mr. Trump but this would seem to fit squarely in the bull’s-eye of high crimes.

    All this goes undiscussed but it won’t always be undiscussed, just as historians tirelessly pick over the antecedents of the Korean, Vietnam and Iraq wars. Notice that Vladimir Putin never mentioned or tried to use Russia’s laptop innocence to delegitimize Mr. Biden’s 2020 victory. On the contrary, he arranged to be heard echoing the Biden campaign line that Hunter had done nothing wrong.

    Yet Mr. Putin went on to engineer the biggest, most provocative change in U.S. relations in a generation with his Ukraine war. In its wake came the many Biden straddles we’re still trying to make sense of, including last week’s. Mr. Putin will continue to be spared use of U.S. munitions to hit most of Russia (however much this might have increased his incentive to negotiate). It’s a decision that echoes Mr. Putin’s propaganda claim that the war is being stage-managed by the U.S. It reinforces a message that Mr. Biden wants to restrict Russia’s gains, not reverse them.

    I come back to a strange connection ignored by the press. In April, Russia’s Foreign Ministry and United Nations delegation claimed Burisma, the Ukrainian company Hunter worked for, funded terrorism on Russian soil, including possibly the March 22 attack that killed 145 concert-goers in Moscow.

    The narrative is nonsensical but that’s beside the point if it draws a connection Mr. Putin wants drawn—between Mr. Biden’s Hunter sensitivity and Mr. Putin’s sensitivity to U.S. weapons causing casualties on Russian soil far from the Ukrainian battle zone.

    I only know it happened and not why, but historians are going to ask. Hunter has been a geopolitical albatross for U.S. administrations ever since he sought to cash in on U.S.-Ukraine relations after Russia’s first invasion in 2014. Some 95% of federal charges end in plea agreements. It’s impossible that Joe Bidendidn’t want his son’s case to end the same way. It’s impossible that Mr. Biden’s Justice Department didn’t make every reasonable effort to ensure Hunter’s case wasn’t among the 5% that go to trial.

    How we got here is partly murky but it should fill you with disquiet about whether the Biden presidency is functioning even minimally as a presidency should.

    Appeared in the June 8, 2024, print edition as 'In a Competent Administration, Hunter’s Trial Wouldn’t Happen'.

     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Seems muddled.

    1. Biden and untoward business deals have been investigated.

    2. If Biden did anything illegal to hide his activities in order to help him win the election, he should be tried and held accountable.
     
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    Can't answer any of my questions so you run to post another OPED cuz you're too much of a dipshit to answer tough questions that expose your bs talking points.

    It's just amazing how braindead the right wing is. They are completely unable to form their own talking points without help from the right wing media
     
  11. Amiga

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    Now, that's one one piece that lacks objectivity and is written from a strongly partisan viewpoint. Crap in, crap out.
     
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  12. Amiga

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    Really? Was this very recent? Why did he not deny that upfront and wait till now? I'm very doubtful that this would have ever gotten to this point if that's the case.

    Link?
     
  13. Os Trigonum

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    THIS IS NOT THE ACTUAL FORM HUNTER SIGNED!!!!!!!!!! ITS NOT

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    I think the point is that mistakes will occasionally happen; even the ATF acknowledges this possibility and provides guidance for dealing with such mistakes. This guidance is in itself NO guarantee that the mistakes will be rectified subsequently in the correct way.

    To my way of thinking there are any number of plausible things that might have happened in the transaction between Biden, the buyer, two salespeople (Turner and Cleveland), and the owner (Palimere). The fact that the employees called the owner in from off-site because Biden was a "celebrity" is evidence that this was no ordinary transaction even at the time it was occurring. The fact that three FFL licensees were involved in completing the paperwork only increases the odds that someone got something wrong in the process, whether an error or an omission . . . who knows.

    The main point is that Biden is on trial for lying about his drug use on his form 4473. It seems pretty clear to me that he did lie; only Russian conspiracists and his defense attorneys dispute that fact.
     
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