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Case to Draft Reed Sheppard at #3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Medicine N Music, May 20, 2024.

  1. cml750

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    and with Sengun and Amen in the fold being a tweener with Reeds skillset would fit perfectly fine with this team.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Exactly.
     
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  3. Bobbythegreat

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    I think players who make shots are good.

    I think players who force up BS shots and miss them are bad.... even if they "create" the bad shots they miss.
     
  4. Nook

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    Reed Sheppard isn't always going to be a one year college player - and you are talking about a single game in the NBA Finals, where the more talented and deeper team did what it was supposed to do.
     
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    Im not being combative, Im just trying to understand your logic.

    You are the Rocket's GM....And you are drafting Reed Sheppard with the logic of NOT expecting him to hit his ceiling but if he does, it's awesome?

    So, basically you are drafting a 6'2 - 6'3 guard who, he himself said tricked his vertical jump, who had a good statistical yr a freshman but was up and down most of the yr and was 1-5 in his last college game.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    I get that you didn't really watch him play, so I understand why you have such a bad take on this. Let's just say if you put in the time to do so, you'd understand the context.... his coach got run out of town for how badly he mismanaged the team.

    So anyway, if I'm the GM I take him because he has the potential to be a HOFer and one of the best ever to play the game.... if he hits that potential, awesome. If he's merely a really good winning type player for a long time, that's fine too.
     
  7. hlmbasketball

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    I understand that but do others on this board? Do I think Reed Sheppard is the next Steph Curry? NO! However, can he be a JJ Reddick type? YES!

    Steph Curry is a once in a generational/life time shooter. Out of all the years of the NBA, his shooting prowress has never been duplicated. And to expect someone who was, no matter how you spend it, he was a bench player, who the other teams did not game plan to stop to come in and to be the next Steph Curry is a tad bit too much, don't you think?
     
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    As to the max vertical... let's say he did short arm the standing reach, fine. So we take off 2 inches in his max vertical and add it to his standing reach.... he's still got a 40 inch vertical.

    You guys are getting desperate in your attempts to downplay the kid and it starts to make me wonder why you'd be so desperate to do so.....
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    When you keep trying to force a JJ Reddick comparison you're just telling on yourself that you haven't actually done the work and watched the kid play.

    You just see white 6'2 good shooting guard and assume he must play like JJ Reddick. It's just lazy. They aren't in any way stylistically similar or similar in athleticism.
     
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    Seriously? First of all he doesn't have to be the next Curry to be a great player. He certainly doesn't have to be a Steph Curry to be a better shooter than guys on our team. We need more proficient shooters. We are bottom tier in a league of much better shooters.

    Secondly, it's kind of BS acting like nobody game planned to stop a "bench" player who actually played 28.9 minutes per game. How many "bench" players averaged 2.5 steals per game?

    1 game is a ridiculous reason to judge him. You do realize we have starters on our team who missed 3 times as many shots as he did in that game several times a month the entire season don't you? You know, going 2-12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, or 18?

    You can say he was up and down all season but if a guy can average 53.6% FG, 52.1% 3 PT, and 83.1% FT then his highs are far more frequent than his lows. That's just a cold hard fact, no matter how you try to paint the picture. If you don't believe a college freshman with those skills can get better with NBA coaching, mentoring, and experience I find you disingenuous. He has the BBIQ and skills to learn and grow as a player.
     
  11. hlmbasketball

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    YOU keep mentioning the color aspect. I on the otherhand have always mentioned similarities in their playing styles.....People normally say whay they're thinking.

    However, if you look at JJ Reddick and Reed Sheppard. The way they score is erily similar.



     
  12. hlmbasketball

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    To me this says, he wasn't KEYED/GAME PLANNED FOR and he was still INCONSISTENT

    Im just going off of what NBA SCOUTS are saying;

    REED SHEPPARD

    At this stage of his development, Sheppard is a classic “shooting guard trapped in a point guard’s body.”

    At 6-3, 185, with average foot speed, strength, and length, Sheppard finds himself at a physical disadvantage against the apex predator wing players, and even wings a level below the All-Star types. He will have to take his lumps as a rookie and ensure that doesn’t impact his confidence in the other aspects of his game.

    Also, Sheppard didn’t start the majority of his games with the Wildcats and played a hair under 29 minutes per contest – a major reason his efficiency numbers grade out so well. Will Sheppard’s shooting splits hold under a significant increase in the physical/mental workload he is sure to endure as a rookie?

    His game log as a freshman was all over the map – 32 points one night, 7 another. A big reason why the No. 3 seed Wildcats got bounced in round one against Oakland? Sheppard: 26 minutes, 1-5 shooting, 3 points, 0 rebounds. NBA coaches crave consistency. If Sheppard can’t lock in night after night, a coach might opt for a more consistent veteran presence, particularly if the team that drafts Sheppard employs a coach with shaky job security
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    No, they aren't stylistically similar at all... and you should be able to tell that even from putting in the minimalist effort of watching one highlight video each.

    You might as well be saying Steph and Kyrie are stylistically similar.
     
  14. hlmbasketball

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    They score in the same manor. Mainly catch and shoot. Steph has handles that neither of them have.....HE CAN GET HIS OWN SHOT OR CATCH AND SHOOT. THAT'S WHAT MAKES HIM SPECIAL.

    Reed and Reddick were and will never be Curry.
     
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    All of what you say may be true but what you are forgetting is when they hit the league next season, Carter will be what he is now because of his vast college experience and will hit the floor running. Sheppard will not and there is a huge possibility that he will never become the great player that many here think he will be. I'm not expecting Carter to become Curry or whoever else. I'm just expecting him to contribute immediately to our defense. You all are expecting Sheppard to come in and blow the league up and he won't right away, if at all.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    This confirms my suspicions, it comes down to really lazy analysis. You read what someone else said about a 1-5 shooting game that you didn't watch so you have no clue why it happened... that it was almost exclusively due to game plan....a game plan so bad it got the coach run out of town.

    That's why especially when it comes to college players, you need to actually put in the time and watch them play. You need to know the why to go along with the what.

    Also, you should pick your "scouts" better, this guy doesn't seem like he put in any more effort than you did.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    They literally don't.... again it comes down to you either not putting in the effort to watch for yourself or you not knowing what you are seeing when you watch.

    I'm glad you are giving us a good example of lazy analysis though as a cautionary tale of what to avoid.
     
  18. htownrox1

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    And I think this is the point I’m seeing as well. Idk how you can look at Reed and see Curry in him. Steph’s handles combined with his hesitation and separation lets him get a shot off anywhere on the court. At this point right now you can’t just give Reed the ball and say “get me a bucket bud”. With Steph, he came in the league with this ability. Yes, he wasn’t a polished product… Yes, he improved… I get it. Reed can improve as well…

    But from all the tape I’ve seen i think it’s FAR less likely Reed becomes a superstar like Curry. I think he actually can become a starter on an NBA championship level team. Of course if the Rockets drafted him I’d be ecstatic to have a true lights out shooter on our team. I just think ppl are overrating him a tad. Just my 2 cents.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Sure, and if the Rockets had the 10th pick, I'd be all for taking a really low ceiling guy like that, but there's just too many better players to consider it at 3
     
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    Again, I’ll say that I like reed. But, unless he proves to be capable point guard, he’ll be a specialist coming off the bench and I just don’t think that’s worth a number three pick.
     
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