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Mike Scotto: Rockets will shop the No. 3 overall pick ahead of the draft in hopes of landing a star

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, May 28, 2024.

  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    If Sheppard has a high ceiling and high floor he would be top 1 on all boards.
     
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    What he's up against is lazy analysis and teams that aren't good at player evaluation.

    Even Steph Curry got passed up by 6 teams...
     
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  3. rockets1995

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    Seek Help and remember Slander is bad for you.
    I just copied and pasted your mental disorder. Don't know what you're ranting about. Your Narcissistic Personality will never make you accept your Flaws.
     
  4. Dobbizzle

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    And yet, it's considered normal to compare these same average role player tier players as if they're better than Green, who actually has shown way more star potential than Mobley so far, and it isn't even close.
     
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    Ah yes, the unhinged simpleton who has been triggered for days wants to tell me what MY problem is.... lol.

    Kid, you have to know that I just see you as a thing to laugh at, so why continue throwing this tantrum? What do you hope to gain by your continued attempt to derail this thread?

    Is it masochism?
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    That's because Green isn't even an average quality role player, he's been terrible.

    There's a reason guys like Barnes and Mobley will be signing max extensions while Jalen won't even get an offer.
     
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    Before that draft I monitored most if not all mock drafts for months and Tari Eason was projected to Bulls on most.

    Many of their fans showed love for him on social media for months leading up to draft.

    They are so mad that we picked him right before they selected. During the entire season I heard and saw the frustration from them and teams
    that could have drafted him.

    I prefer to keep Tari and Cam as long as possible.
     
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  8. Aruba77

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    didn’t know that about the Bulls-Tari connection. Good intel.
     
  9. OremLK

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    I'm not a big fan of Mobley or anything--Green might have been the right pick (TBD). My point is more that Ware is nowhere near Mobley's talent level. He is super raw to a degree Mobley never was, his motor sucks, and he doesn't appear all that interested in basketball. He probably won't even be a lottery pick. Mobley was #3 in a better draft and I don't think he's been that much of a disappointment.
     
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    Oh I agree, there's probably nobody in this draft as good as Mobley. In the same stroke though, Reed Sheppard is not "better than Green day one" or any of the comps he's getting on this board. I think it's either 1.CF is just completely garbage at evaluating talent (most likely.) 2. People are just overhyping the draft to create a buzz amongst the mediocrity, or 3.The Jalen hate really does run so far that they've convinced themselves his entire draft was trash, when in truth most of the top 10 in 21 would be the guaranteed #1 pick in this draft.
     
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    that package for jalen is maybe ok

    not 3
     
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    I didn't even bother to watch it after ApacheWarrior told me all about it.
     
  14. Aruba77

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    So given that the likelihood of landing a star is poor, I do think it’s interesting to consider trade scenarios that have us move back to pick up a really good player that makes us more competitive, while still being able to draft someone in the lotto. While folks have their hearts set on Reed Sheppard, I wouldn’t feel terrible about moving back and getting an impact player, and drafting Devin Carter, or even just moving back slightly and still getting Reed Sheppard. I’m not talking about moving back for a 1-dimensional player like Luke Kannard, but for a good starter, it’s worth consideration. And you only do this if you think the draft is pretty flat starting at #3, which it is. If we have a guy we love at #3, that we know is a hit in this draft, take him, but I’d love to see what our board looks like. It could be that we can trade back and still get the guy we want.
     
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    We’ve heard rumors of a wing player in Bridges so I hope the Rockets are thinking what I’m thinking: upgrading Brooks is our best option. I also saw something about Caruso who fits a similar profile.

    The issue with trading no one from the core is we already do not have enough minutes for everyone on the wing.

    We have Green, Whitmore, Brooks, Tari and Amen competing for just 96 minutes. You can’t just acquire Bridges or Caruso without dumping someone.

    They won’t dump Tari, Amen or Whitmore. They won’t dump Green unless it’s for a star. So they must be willing to trade Brooks. Trading Brooks for Bridges retains 100% of our cap space for next season. Weakens the Nets. I’d be shocked if they don’t do it but I think they will seek a superstar first.
     
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    If teams arent good at talent evaluation and Steph Curry got passed then its even more likely Sheppard will just be a role player since everyone has him getting picked in the top 3.

    Btw its funny you say lazy analysis since you cant get lazier than omg 50% in college! Better than Steph!
     
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  17. Bobbythegreat

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    Oh I think the same dumb people would pass on him just like they did with Curry....we're just hoping that the Rockets learn from the mistakes of those dumb people and make the right pick.

    I know, I know, you think tall=good and that measurables are more important than actually being able to play basketball. It's fine.

    You can hope for another untalented prospect with amazing measurables and I can hope for someone who actually knows how to play basketball.
     
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    True, but Green reaching his potential is a 50/50 proposition.
     
  19. Aruba77

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    agreed that Brooks has to be the top target to trade if we bring in a starter. I’m not gonna hammer Stone too much for it, but I remain disappointed that we gave him 4yrs at over $20 mil per. I don’t think he’s a negative asset, but I think the list of teams who are willing to take on that 3 yrs (even though it’s declining) is limited. I’ll be very interested to see what Dillon’s trade value ends up being.
     
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    I'm not sure we can actually put odds on it, that's part of the problem. However, (and this is the bit everybody misses) Green has A chance (whether that be 40%, 50% or 10%) to be a superstar scorer, literally one of the best players in the league - he's proved that with all of his peak performances in every season that all have excellent efficiency (given, the consistency is the issue, so he may not pan out at all.) The vast majority of players in the league have 0% chance. That's why you don't trade him for a roleplayer and some draft picks, it's insane. It's the gamble you do take, because the vast majority of people don't even get the chance to take the gamble. The ceiling is actually that rare.
     

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