I have clients and engineers I work with who are Muslims including a structural engineer who still has family in Iran. My neighborhood has a large Somali population and my understanding is their situation is closer to the situation in Europe. This is refugee community that is poorer than other American Muslims and has had a harder time assimilating. Even so there are no serious attempts to implement Sharia law here.
Your anecdotal evidence vs. this anecdotal evidence. Also, where wokes collide with Muslims: https://www.christianpost.com/news/...-allows-parents-to-opt-out-of-lgbt-books.html Minnesota public school allows Somali Muslim families to opt out of LGBT curriculum St. Louis Park Public Schools was slapped with two demand letters in recent months A Minnesota public school district is allowing six Somali Muslim families to opt of its curriculum material that affirms LGBTQ behavior after attorneys at two law firms fired off demand letters last year. First Liberty Institute and True North Legal announced earlier this week that St. Louis Park Public Schools (SLP) near Minneapolis is now not only permitting elementary school students to opt out of such material, but also students in the district's middle and high school, according to a press release. The two firms were representing six Muslim families who had immigrated to the U.S. from war-torn Somalia within the past 20 years, according to First Liberty. The parents wanted to know when their children would be encountering material that touched on sexuality, and LGBTQ sexuality in particular. Fatuma Irshat, one of the mothers involved in the case, said her family believes "that we have a sacred obligation to teach the principles of our faith to our children without being undermined by the schools." Hodan Hassan, another parent, said her family "came to America because of its rich heritage of protecting religious liberty and the opportunity to raise our children in a place where they have access to success." "We were shocked that our children were being taught material that violates our beliefs, but we’re grateful that the school has granted our opt-out requests," Hassan added. Kayla Toney, associate counsel at First Liberty Institute, told The Christian Post that the attorneys sent the district their first demand letter in November and another in December asking it to grant the parents' opt-out requests, which they claim were at first denied. The second letter sent to the district took issue with its "Alternative Learning Procedure," which was created in response to parental concerns, but which attorneys argued exhibited "burdensome prerequisites inconsistent" with state law and exposed families to unnecessary scrutiny. "[We explained] how the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment protects parents' right to raise their children according to their sincerely held religious beliefs without being undermined by the school," Toney said. "And we also explained how Minnesota has a state law that guarantees parents the ability to review curriculum and then to request alternative learning if there's something that they are concerned about." "And so, thanks to our demand letters and advocacy there, we were able to get a win for the clients without needing to go to court," she added. Toney told CP that what was at stake with the case was nothing less than the right of parents "to know about what their kids are learning in school." "And when that conflicts with their sincerely held religious beliefs, do they have a right to opt their children out of that teaching?" she asked. "I think the big takeaway here is that diversity and inclusion need to extend to religious families, too," she said. "That's why the First Amendment specifically protects religious exercise. And with all the focus on inclusion, it's important to recognize who we're excluding as a result of that." "And so here, opt-outs are a great, peaceful, pluralistic way to give a chance for everyone to be included and to make sure that no one's beliefs are being trampled upon. And so that's really been our goal from the beginning," she added. Following news stories on the case, SLP Interim Superintendent Dr. Kate Maguire released a statement Tuesday emphasizing the district's commitment to "upholding inclusivity in SLP curriculum" while noting that state law mandates them to accommodate families who wish to opt out. Maguire wrote that the district is "committed to ensuring that the district’s learning communities honor and respect the identities of all of our students, families, staff and broader community, including diverse gender identity and gender expression." The school "has always complied with the state law regarding parents' statutory right to opt out of instructional materials, and we will continue to do so," Maguire continued, adding that "opt-outs based on representation of protected classes do not uphold our values of creating safe and inclusive learning and working environments in our schools." "However, because it is required within state law, any change would need to happen with the involvement of state lawmakers," the superintendent added. Toney noted that parents being allowed to opt their children out of objectionable curriculum materials has become a hot-button issue nationwide. She pinpointed the similar case of Mahmoud v. McKnight, a lawsuit that emerged last year amid a similar situation in Montgomery County, Maryland. An interfaith group of parents claimed in August 2023 they were not allowed to opt their elementary school-aged children out of lessons they found offensive and inappropriate. Later that month, a federal judge rejected the parents’ motion for a preliminary injunction to restore the opt-out option as the case is adjudicated.
My anecdotal evidence is as relevant as stuff just found on Twitter. More so since I can actually verify it first hand. Also considering how often you complain about “woke” being forced on students you should agree with her for not compelling students to participate in LGBT awareness. Finally that’s not sharia law.
There a multiple Islamic majority countries who have wildly different laws. Shariah law is the old woke. Muslims are scary with their beards and their 9/11s and their Shariah law!! Also while conservatives in the US say we are this nation based on a nebulous Judeochristian law the rest of the western world is not.
I have no desire to live in a community that is majority fundamentalist Muslim - or fundamentalist Christian. Being a fundamentalist Muslim is very difficult in the West, or really anywhere that doesn't have a lot of other fundamentalists. There are some parts of Michigan where there are a lot of very devout fundamentalist Muslims and I have zero desire to live there.... but the same is true for Mormons, etc. I have no issue with secular Muslims or secular Christians outside of some antiquated views. I also don't believe that most Muslims in the USA are fundamentalist - in fact I would say that by the second or third generation, many are agnostic. I know quite a few nominal or former Muslims that live in the USA and that no one would know were born Muslim.
Honestly Islam is a menace. All religions are bullshit, but Islam and its screwed up message is especially bad. DD
Throwing stones from glass houses as they say? Whatever ideology you followed made you a morbidly obese unempathetic ass who lives a sedentary suburban lifestyle who unironically without a ounce of self awareness says stuff "that is the nature of war" when it comes to stuff like "collateral damage".
Denmark is doing it right, they just reject them and deport them - their country is safer because of it. Islam is a cancer - and once it takes root it is difficult to get out - it isn't a religion it is a political movement to suppress women and it creates a generation of men that are sexually frustrated and angry. Islam is a danger to Western societies due to it's intolerance and IMHO should be met with the same intolerance against it. Yep, that's me, happily truthful. Wanna win a war? Wipeout the entire culture of the enemy.....been that way for centuries....it isn't pretty but it is the nature of war. Ironically it is what Islam is trying to do, wipeout other cultures..and spread like the cancer it is....... So sad, you are in trying to get personal, I empathize that you are in the cult of Islam - and the lies that are it's underpinnings, I hope that some day, you can see the light of truth, that it is all made up to control the ignorant masses, don't be an ignorant mass....sir.....it is unbecoming. Oh, and Jalen Green sucks.....lol..... DD
I'm not saying "send them all back", but people need to realize that the ideology of political Islam is an actual threat to peace and stability and basic rights in Western countries.
Aliens built us to mine gold for them bro @basso also think about some of these religions that ban pork and bikinis @AroundTheWorld built on hate
I would give them 5 years to assimilate, and become citizens and if they don't do that, toss em back to their own country. That would include you too.....Mein Herr. DD
As I’ve said many times before there are many devout Muslims in my neighborhood and ive never felt uncomfortable except for them taking up street side parking on my street at prayer times. According to some though these Muslims are secretly plotting to impose sharia law. I guess I better enjoy my pork ribs and beer while I can.
If they reach citizenship....they have 5 years to become citizens......If they aren't interested in joining the country, toss em back. DD
That doesn't matter if they are willing to take the oath, pass the citizenship test, that shows that they are interested in joining our country, if not - then kick em out. As for people on a work Visa - they wouldn't need to do that - obviously - but we should tighten who we let in on work visas.....Melania should never have gotten an exemption she isn't some special case, she was just a call - girl......we already have those here. Such a peaceful cult. DD
