I won't go into my disagreement with Kyrie's personal life choices. Speaking strictly from a basketball standpoint, Kyrie is a player you take a chance on when you need that final piece and you don't have the option to get a legit star with no baggage. For instance if Kyrie were available in 2017 and the Rockets couldn't get CP3, I would've been on board with getting Kyrie. In 2008 when the Rockets got Ron Artest, same thing I would've traded for Kyrie for that team. For this team, Kyrie would just be a worse version of what he did in Boston. Derail a young team until he finally decided to get out of there.
And your point is.... (what would Rox have given up, is what I am asking you...) Also, IIRC Dallas was an "approved" destination by Kyrie - Houston was not on his list. Hence why the compensation was so low from Dallas & Kyrie's market was low.
Kyrie is a box of chocolates having three flavors... 1) when he wants to play, he is one of the best 2) when he doesn't want to play, he finds a reason to not play. Greatest ability is availability. 3) when he thinks the earth is flat and all of us are too close to the edge, see #2....variant of
“He’s in the Finals, he’s hit some big shots …. no, he’s not a batshit crazy conspiracy theorist! That was overblown! Kyrie is a free thinker and does his own research! You’re a sheep!” “This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat. It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us. What I’ve been taught is that the earth is round, but if you really think about it from a landscape of the way we travel, the way we move and the fact that, can you really think of us rotating around the sun and all planets aligned, rotating in specific dates, being perpendicular with what’s going on with these planets.” “Because, everything that they send—or that they want to say they’re sending—doesn’t come back,” Irving explained. “There is no concrete information except for the information that they’re giving us. They’re particularly putting you in the direction of what to believe and what not to believe. The truth is right there, you just got to go searching for it” He later apologized. Hopefully after this I'm done answering this question. At the time, I was huge into conspiracies, and everybody’s been there. Everybody’s been there. You can’t tell me anything. So, I’m sorry about all that, for all the science teachers. Everybody coming up to me like, ‘You know I gotta reteach my whole curriculum!’ I’m sorry. I apologize." https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifesty...-being-flat/v7sNKtYS3SS1QX7s4S4ZaM/story.html In the same podcast, Irving said he thinks JFK was assassinated because he wanted to “end the bank cartel in the world,” a theory famously floated by Jim Marrs in his book “Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy.” Marrs concluded that Kennedy was killed because he wanted to reduce the influence of the Federal Reserve Bank. And about Bob Marley, Irving said the CIA had tried to hire Jamaicans to kill the singer. Why? “[Marley] tried to bring people together and the fact that it was fundamentally built on love and truth and we kill people for doing the right thing like that,” Irving said. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/nba-anti-vaxxers-covid-1231988/ Irving, who serves as a vice president on the executive committee of the players’ union, recently started following and liking Instagram posts from a conspiracy theorist who claims that “secret societies” are implanting vaccines in a plot to connect Black people to a master computer for “a plan of Satan.” “My post was a post from Alex Jones that he did in the early '90s or late '90s about secret societies in America of occults. And it's true.” https://sports.yahoo.com/the-many-c...ing-brooklyn-nets-antisemitism-231547294.html "Hebrews to Negroes: Wake Up Black America." A central theme of the three-plus-hour film is the conspiracy theory that Jewish people stole their identity from Black people, enslaved them and tricked Western culture into believing they are the true Israelites and Hebrews by assuming control of education, churches and the banking, media and entertainment industries. "The mass media is the biggest tool of indoctrination, brainwashing and propaganda that the world has seen. For centuries, it has been helping Satan deceive the world, including the Christian church. Don't believe me?" Ronald Dalton Jr., the film's director and the author of a book by the same name, narrated, before sharing a baseless Harold Wallace Rosenthal quote that posits a Jewish plan to control the world. "Satan comes to kill, steal and destroy. Satan is also the Father of Lies. Therefore after watching this film we should now know who is running the world," added Dalton, who also used an unsubstantiated Adolf Hitler quote and multiple excerpts from Henry Ford's "The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem" as foundational arguments. "It is not a coincidence that the powers behind the Three Abrahamic Religions that enslaved our Israelite ancestors would also go through so much trouble to keep our identity a secret." The film also touches on the notion that disease is another method of this controlling narrative. ________________________________ 17-18: 60 games (BOS) (knee injury) 18-19: 67 games (BOS) 19-20: 20 games (BRK; Covid split year) (shoulder injury) 20-21: 54 games (BRK) 21-22: 29 games (BRK) (NY covid mandate) 22-23: 60 games (BRK/DAL) 23-24: 58 games (DAL)
Yall are crazy with that antisemitic talk. Literally denying history and parts of the Atlantic slave trade that harmed millions of Blacks. Wtf! and what's funny about you saying it's far right rhetoric is currently in today's time it's the right that's the most protective of Israel interests. Yes Kyrie the nutjob for exposing parts of history people don't know about. I hope he keeps balling out
Calling out one bad documentary (which does deny the Holocaust, by the way) is not the same as denying the horrors of the Atlantic slave trade--that's false equivalence. There are plenty of ways to expose how awful slavery was in the Americas without diving into and promoting far-right conspiracy theories. Also, as a side note, being pro-or-anti the state of Israel has nothing to do with antisemitism, but denying the Holocaust absolutely does. But, let's not get into all this any further here, this forum is for talking about Rockets basketball...
Kyrie Irving didn't leave the Nets High and Dry, the Government was slandering Kyrie Irving, especially the Mayor that is still doing terrible corruption in New York. New York Law Enforcement is a problem. Stephen A Smith, Charles Barkley, Shaq all were against Kyrie Irving. Now all look like idiots. All fake smiling, they knew they were wrong on the vaccine. Vaccines are not safe, Citizens are Lab Rats, Look at Bronny James. He is lucky to be alive.
This team is not a Robin level player away from a title, it's the same reason I'm not interested in Donovan Mitchell. Kyrie is best when he can comfortably sit in the shadow of a truly great player who commands the real attention. FVV is 100% a better player for the Rockets than Kyrie who would have done jack s**t to improve the young players around him That's not even to mention his off court nonsense.
Thank you. People out here acting like Kyrie hadn't been a selfish individual for the last 5 years and hadn't become a cancer in the last couple teams he was with before Luka rescued his career.
Who cares about the politics, dude can ball. This is America and Kyrie is welcome to have his opinions
Nothing wrong with "Robin" level stars unless you're depending on them to be your Batman. Kyrie as you're #1 guy isn't a winning proposition.
He was raised Christian who became a Muslim. Except on that path, he believed in some antisemitic stuff. Maybe he was really sorry and sincere in his apology, or maybe all that push back made him dig further in his heels, but he just can't publicly say it. Either way, Kyrie being on the Mavs, makes Rockets fans' feeling towards him much simpler.
The stuff you listed has absolutely nothing to do with on court performance. You gotta take chances if you want to be great. BTW, Kyrie was right about the vaccines.
