These guys are still super young. That’s why it makes it a little bit silly to judge any of them frankly. If Green doesn’t improve his efficiency and we want to extrapolate in January that it will never happen. we should trade him, I can get behind it, but I won’t be shocked if he improves enough in years 5-9 to make a couple ASGs and be a league average shooter. I’m most convinced on Sengun. We really need to focus on building the team around him. Especially the offense. He can do a lot more as far as initiating, I want someone like Mitchell being our best player this year and maybe next year. By then hopefully Mitchell is our 3rd best player and we are competing for the WCF.
I agree that not all of the six kids and this year's #3 will all be on the team two years from now. If only two of them turn out to be superstar level player, we'll be going places. But I've said it elsewhere and some other people have pointed out the same. Giving up on young players who are still in development for some second or third tier star is not worth it. While we don't know yet how high Alpi, Amen, Jalen, and Cam will reach, we already know players like Zion and Mitchell can't carry a team to contention (for different reasons) even with another tier 2/3 star player and a pretty decent supporting cast. Why give the farm and your kids for them when you still don't have a tier 1 star? I know the argument is that this is an incremental step. Getting one lower level star first and wait for the opportunity for a bigger star. My counter argument is that those big superstars are extremely difficult to get. The likelihood of getting one of them through trade or FA is extremely low, lower than one of our young guys becoming one. And Sengun is the most likely at this point. Giving him up for players like Williamson and Mitchell is not a very wise decision.
I think the main point that these pro-trade arguments are missing is that evaluating the youngsters as unknown potential which will potentially fail, and the alternative is a guaranteed win. Both sides of the argument is problematic. Not all stars are created equal and usually the ones you can get are not sure things. Even the ones that looks a guaranteed great player may perform otherwise due to several reason. And on the other side of the coin, the youngster who has been improving up to this point are very likely to figure things out with their weaknesses. Look at the paul george-sga trade or sabonis-haliburton. Who won those trades? When a young player pans out, it pays out so big. We have several candidates for that to happen. We should do trades to replace brooks, fvv and sengun's backup in the next iteration of this core. Not the core themselves. The only player i can think of giving up on now is tari tbh, if i had to. The trade, revisited five seasons later Clippers received: F Paul George Thunder received: G Shai Gilgeous-Alexander F Danilo Gallinari Miami Heat’s 2021 unprotected first-rounder (Tre Mann taken at No. 18) Clippers’ 2022 unprotected first-rounder (Jalen Williams taken at No. 12) Right to 2023 first-round swap with Clippers (not conveyed) Clippers’ 2024 unprotected first-rounder Heat’s 2025 protected first-rounder for 1-14 (unprotected for 2026) Right to 2025 first-round swap with Clippers Clippers’ 2026 unprotected first-rounder Indiana receives: Tyrese Haliburton Buddy Hield Tristan Thompson Sacramento receives: Domantas Sabonis Justin Holiday Jeremy Lamb 2023 second-round pick
Dallas-minnesota series is a goldmine for the slow unathletic talk. The slow fat unathletic doncic destroying the mavs, playing slower compared to when he came in to the league. Gobert sitting out the 4th. the athletic centers who can stretch the floor are pretty much useless.
I agree to a point. I point to the Green draft over the USC kid. That was a colossal mistake even though Mobley isn't the 2nd coming of even say D Howard. They got more than expected from Alpi, but green and Smith are not filling the bill.
I think it is too early to give the verdict on green and smith. But if I were in that opinion, I would try to trade them for a similar young player who might benefit from a team change rather than an older star.
Tari Eason...oh wait I'm fine with Bari. The only one drafted behind him (other than Tari) who could possibly turn out better (and has arguably been better so far) is really Jalen Williams.
23-year-old Zion: 23-5-6 on 57-33-70 in 32 MPG 21-year-old Alperen: 21-9-5 on 54-30-69 in 33 MPG I'll keep the basketball psychopath, thank you. Alperen is going to continue to get better. He is wired differently than Zion, who is dangerously close to totally falling apart. Weight and personal life... If Alperen gets those percentages up to 57-35-80, watch out... It's going to go crazy in here. Be patient... Jokic at 23 was 51-31-82. Alperen was 147/181 for 81% at the line at Besiktas. I think with improved fitness we will see an increase in his percentages across the board.
Can't change it now, I still think Jabari will be a solid NBA player and haven't completely given up on Jalen yet - at worst, I hope he would still net some return in a trade.
Well it fits your pure ignorance.......now go contribute to the site, you have been banned before....keep on going...bound to happen again. And I was saying this is what I think the ROCKET's think.....I would build around Sengun. DD
