Both Ant and Jalen aren't PG. They took too long to make decision. They can run some play. They are better if they are the finisher and not the one initiate the offense.
There's no need for rudeness. I write uncommon things. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother writing it. It's already assumed you won't agree with it. The point wasn't to say Green is a great player, but rather that the Timberwolves outside of Edwards are a very good team and were better than the Rockets outside of Green during the 2023-24 season. Whether Edwards was slightly better or worse wouldn't have made a difference. My experience: 15 seasons of Divison 1 basketball and never didn't make a final. Yours?
My apologies if you take what I said personally. Wasn't meant as such. I did that recently myself. But if your going to post extreme takes about a player that is clearly struggling and suggest he wouldn't affect much on the outcome of a very good team, then expect some harsh responses. And yes, I have posted controversial things and also got the appropriate responses. I see your relatively new to Clutchfans, so I will inform you to expect anything posted to be put through a meatgrinder.
You did not specifically say put Green next to Edwards on Timberwolves team or without Edwards but I assume it is replacing Edwards. It would be interesting but I doubt Green is playing that kind of Defense.......and Edwards has won them many games by himself. Green is a guy that is inconsistent and Chris Finch is not going to trust someone with that kind of inconsistency.....I think he is better suited to being around Udoka. He would not even get that much playing time. You could say Green for any 1st option on any team......people are going to shake their heads.
One has been playing for the same HC for the past 4yrs, the Defensive Player of the Year and one of the best shooting big men in the league and a complete roster. The other is playing with a core of rookies, 1st and 2nd year players and a new HC. Can you guess which is which?
Context is so important. When people leave the context out of discussions, it means they know that they have a bs argument. The Twolves are so much better than the Rockets overall.
Green technically is only 20 years old in NBA years since he’s only had a rEAl coach for oNE year ok!! Green is now technically now a sophomore!!!! He can still transition into an AnT level player!!!!! I respect his PRONOUNS!
so that the excuse why he has the worst shooting efficiency for the past 3 years? he only didn't improve but actually got worse
I want you to analyze the league in a comment but without addressing shooting efficiency. Like make a comment on the offensive system and Green's deficiencies in terms of in court analysis. How does his presence on the court in pact team offense for example? And what is the "the worst shooting efficiency"? Paolo Banchero has a career 53.7% ts Green has a career 54.2% ts.
The fact that he can't ****ing shoot, has a low BBIQ, a low actual IQ, a weak handle, and a chucker's mindset negatively impacts team offense because it creates spacing issues and leads to poor shot selection. This is mitigated a bit by everyone around him being better basketball players than him, but his negative impact on both ends of the court is still felt unless he happens too be having a random fluke hot shooting game.
Clearly it has to be lying because every objective metric that says Jalen Green is awful HAS to be lying.
lets talk about last season what are TS% for both? and how does each last season TS% compare to their first season? who improved and who got worse?
...while we are at it let's talk about context. Who has been utilized in different ways each year as the coach is trying out different styles of play to try to find continuity in the offense? The way I see it, Green has seen at least 4 fairly significant changes in playing style over the course of his career - one of which had him as the PG for the team AND he is a top 15 player who sees doubles in the league. I know the average fan thinks those things don't matter but I think most people from a development and coaching standpoint understand that Green's struggles aren't entirely of his own creation and can be traced back to a series of systemic changes and Green having to adapt to those moments. There is a big difference in how you score when you are the PG vs a SG, the places on the floor you initiate from when the guy feeding you the ball is in the perimeter vs the low block vs the high block, and what the floor looks like when you are the team's only offensive weapon vs when you share it with another offensive threat like Sengun. Sure, we all wish Green picked up on those differences quicker - BUT he has been adapting and learning and has been improving and I think most smart people would see that Green has a fairly bright future ahead of him even if he isn't Ant(and he never was going to be because they have entirely different skills/body profiles).
Jalen Green TS% 2021-22 - 54.7 2022-23 - 53.9 2023-24 - 54.1 https://www.espn.com/nba/player/advancedstats/_/id/4437244/jalen-green
