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Trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict

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  1. Reeko

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    Supporters of former President Donald Trump, enraged by his conviction on 34 felony counts by a New York jury, flooded pro-Trump websites with calls for riots, revolution and violent retribution.
    After Trump became the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, his supporters responded with dozens of violent online posts, according to a Reuters review of comments on three Trump-aligned websites: the former president's own Truth Social platform, Patriots.Win and the Gateway Pundit.

    Some called for attacks on jurors, the execution of the judge, Justice Juan Merchan, or outright civil war and armed insurrection.
    “Someone in NY with nothing to lose needs to take care of Merchan,” wrote one commentator on Patriots.Win. “Hopefully he gets met with illegals with a machete,” the post said in reference to illegal immigrants.
    On Gateway Pundit, one poster suggested shooting liberals after the verdict. “Time to start capping some leftys,” said the post. “This cannot be fixed by voting."

    Threats of violence and intimidating rhetoric soared after Trump lost the 2020 election and falsely claimed the vote was stolen. As he campaigns for a second White House term, Trump has baselessly cast the judges and prosecutors in his trials as corrupt tools of the Biden administration, intent on sabotaging his White House bid. His loyalists have responded with a campaign of threats and intimidation targeting judges and court officials.

    “This was a disgrace, this was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt,” Trump told reporters afterwards, echoing comments he often made during the trial.
    A 12-member jury found Trump guilty on Thursday of falsifying documents to cover up a payment to silence a p*rn star’s account of a sexual encounter ahead of the 2016 election. Sentencing is set for July 11, days before the Republican Party is scheduled to formally nominate Trump for president ahead of the Nov. 5 election. Trump has denied wrongdoing and is expected to appeal.

    Trump continued his attacks online after the verdict.
    On Truth Social, he called Merchan “HIGHLY CONFLICTED” and criticized his jury instructions as unfair. One commentator responded by posting a picture of a hangman's platform and a noose with the caption: “TREASONOUS MOBSTER OF THE JUSTICES SYSTEM!!”
    Jacob Ware, a co-author of the book “God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America”, said the violent language used by Trump’s followers was testament to the former president’s “ironclad ability to mobilize more extreme supporters to action, both at the ballot box and through violence.”

    “Until and unless he accepts the process, the extremist reaction to his legal troubles will be militant,” said Ware, a research fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.
    A spokesperson for Truth Social said, “It’s hard to believe that Reuters, once a respected news service, has fallen so low as to publish such a manipulative, false, defamatory and transparently stupid article as this one purely out of political spite.”
    All three sites have policies against violent language, and some of the posts were later removed. Representatives of Patriots.Win and Gateway Pundit did not immediately return requests for comment. A Trump spokesperson also did not respond to an email seeking comment.

    “HANG EVERYONE”
    After Thursday's verdict, many of his supporters also said that his conviction was proof that the American political system was broken and that only violent action could save the country.
    “1,000,000 men (armed) need to go to Washington and hang everyone. That's the only solution,” said one poster on Patriots.win. Another added: “Trump should already know he has an army willing to fight and die for him if he says the words...I’ll take up arms if he asks.”
    Other posts specifically urged targeting Democrats, in some cases suggesting they be shot. “AMERICA FULLY DESTROYED BY DEMOCRATS. LOCK AND LOAD,” wrote a commentator on Gateway Pundit.
    While the posts identified by Reuters all called for violence or insurrection, most fell short of the legal standard for a prosecutable threat, which typically requires evidence that the comment reflects a clear intent to act or instill fear, rather than simply suggesting a frightening outcome.
    Still, one researcher who studies extremist militias said the guilty verdict could inspire violence by reinforcing a conviction among some of Trump's supporters that he's a victim of a conspiracy orchestrated by his enemies.
    “I do think a lot of these folks have been looking for an excuse to maybe mobilize for a while,” said Amy Cooter of the Middlebury Institute of International Studies’ Center on Terrorism, Extremism and Counterterrorism. “I hope I’m wrong. I’ve said for a long time, though, that I would not be shocked to see violence result from a guilty verdict, either directed toward the jurors” or others connected to the case.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...violent-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/

    Will they do another Jan 6?
     
  2. Ubiquitin

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    June 6. It’ll be a semiannual affair for them.
     
  3. deb4rockets

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    Trump's Domestic Terrorists.
     
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    The thing about Jan 6th, is the organization was there for these online groups like the Proud Boys, etc. I knew from Trumper gun nut guys I know how they were organizing via these facebook groups.

    Say what you want about the DOJ, and FBI following Jan 6th, but i do think they did a pretty good job at cracking the leadership structure, and having the Proud Boys leader getting sentenced for 20 years is a huge deal.

    More might be happening on Truth Social, 4chan, etc. that I know of, but my understanding from the Trumpers I know is that there's no real organizers anymore so it'll just be lone wolf stuff most likely, and honestly most of these guys are just scared cowards. There are not enough guns in this world for them to still feel safe, and secure in their own home in Friendswood, or Frisco, or whatever white upper middle class suburb they live in... in a Red state with governors like Gregg Abbott and Ron DeSantis.

    So maybe some lone wolf stuff, but unless the FBI takes their foot off the gas, I don't suspect any groups are able to organize anything as well mobilized as January 6th. I think Trump hosting rallies in New York is him attempting to organize on his own (I suspect he was hoping that these rallies could mobilize their way to the courtroom before and after for a show of force), but I don't think he can be as explicitly organized at the ground level with these groups as a Proud Boys type of group can with their facebook groups. Trump knows that if he hosts a rally in a geographical location where those people can walk a few blocks over, and stage a riot, that he will face charges, and likely be arrested on the spot since most of those locations are ran by non-right wing officials. He's not going to host a rally in Austin, and then urge his supporters to go attack Governor Gregg Abbott's building full of Republican MAGA hacks.

    If you want to see what's happening though just do searches for gun/2nd amendment type of groups on forums and social groups. That's where the real dangerous guys are, and where the guys are that have the ability to organize.
     
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    Ehh, most of them are just keyboard warriors raging into the void. Sure, there will be a couple of crazies that might do some lone wolf violence. I'm waiting to see if anything gets organized.
     
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    I don't see what the verdict changes, with regard to the election. Those who were going to vote for him will do it anyway, those who weren't still won't.
     
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    For posterity.

    Until Czar Trump gropes that too. :D
     
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  10. rocketsjudoka

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    The prosecution wasn't for changing votes outside of the jury room. That was the point of a non-political prosecution.
     
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    "Non-Political" prosecution that took 8 years after the fact and right on the doorsteps of the Election.

    Sure Okay.

    Maybe saying the above aloud isn't as ridiculous as reading it.



    At least the posterity angle acknowledges the insane asylum we're all in.
     
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  12. rocketsjudoka

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    Well it could've happened much faster if Trump hadn't thrown up as much delaying tactics. He also likely could've cut a deal with prosecution much earlier to avoid a trial at all.
     
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    They charged him in March 2023. It took the DA 6-7 years to gather everything up?

    I mean he won so he did a good job, but the timing, even without Trump sandbagging, is questionable.
     
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    So where were all the riots?
     
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    Trump was President during some of those years and as we know from the Mueller investigation there were DOJ and other roadblocks that made it difficult to investigate or prosecute a sitting president. My understanding is it isn't even clear whether a sitting president can be prosecuted by federal or state court. Also Cohen didn't become a cooperating witness until a few years after that nor was Pecker's testimony.

    So again unless this was actually 5D chess by the DA to have Trump elected president, Cohen plead guilty, Trump lose the election just so this could go to trial during the 2024 election the timing does fit with the dates where other key evidence was collected.
     
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    Do you think it would've been a failure by Bragg if he had won a conviction after the Elections?

    That would be the best response for making it "Non-Political", except Dem partisans publicly fume over the GA trials being delayed until after the elections.

    Honestly, I don't care whether it was or wasn't, rather what "it looks like" to someone in the Midwest who doesn't follow this 24/7 and are less likely to hear/read rationalizations by Vox/Slate/et al and more by what they see right in front of their faces.
     
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    FIFY
     
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    It sucks that they all have a vote and their own echo chamber amirite?
     
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    Nope. I never said that. Just correcting your bullshit.
     

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