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The Hush Money Trial

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Apr 13, 2024.

  1. ROCKSS

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    trump supporters don't get dissuaded by FACTS, they live on the lies that are fed to them daily and then go out and repeat said lies, wash-rinse-repeat
     
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  2. HTM

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    1. The DOJ passed on this case. They didn't find it viable. This is politically motivated by Alvin Bragg and his office.

    2. Even though I haven't mentioned the DOJ in any of my posts. Evidence that they are pursuing Hunter Biden for not paying his income taxes for several years does not mean in of itself mean they cannot pursue other cases based on a political motivation... you can't possibly be trying to make that claim...
     
  3. HTM

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    It's not just "Trump supporters" who don't think this was a prudent prosecution. Many people have opined similarly.
     
  4. HTM

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    Why are reviewing Trumps credit applications looking for "over valuations" and not every single credit application in this country? I wonder.
     
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    Who are these scholars and can you please include quotes for context.

    The law is the law. If a law needs to be thrown out because it’s irrelevant than state reps or Congress in federal law need to update the laws.

    The question is what is the law you are charging him with, did he break the law?

    It’s felony for reasons that are easy for a jury to comprehend and the judge and grand jury allowed the state to proceed under. The state isn’t just making up laws though. If they charge him with a felony and it’s not there are checks and balances along the way to correct that. Grand jury, judge, and then the trail judge, appeals court, and then ultimately the jury… then again maybe another appeals court.

    Still if it’s a law and he broke it, he’ll get charged whether it’s a misdemeanor or a felony and that impacts his sentencing if convicted.
     
  6. Deckard

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    Lock him up. trump claims that he could murder someone in Times Square and get away with it. Heck, he thinks he can get away with anything because he always has. Show the creature that because of his lies in an effort deceive the country during his attempt to get elected president, trump will pay a price for his crimes against the American people.

    Let him sit in a jail cell for a while and eat the same food as the rest of the prisoners, drink the same stuff they drink.
    Make him suffer. It seems like little enough for him to go through, but he would hate every minute. If anyone deserves to pay a price for breaking the political rules (the ones we still have, at any rate) of our American republic, trump tops the list, in my humble opinion.
     
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  7. HTM

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/opinion/bragg-trump-trial.html

    Richard Hasen (UCLA Law) and Jed Handesman Shugerman (Boston University Law School) are two legal scholars cited within critical of the case.
     
  8. HTM

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    Yea, see, this is what it's all about. Not the rule of law or "justice" but politically motivated vengeance.
     
  9. No Worries

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    Are suggesting than Byron York and Don Allen are talking out their collective asses?
     
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    If you are wishing to regurgitate trump's defenses you should at least also regurgitate his list of legal experts (dersh, turley, judge jeanine, habbas). trump was accused of a serious crime. A grand jury indicted him. He is standing trial. A jury of 12 is determining guilt or innocence and a judge will decide punishment if found guilty. Unless you think trump is above the law...
     
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    I think there are thousands if not 10s of thousands of things one can be indicted for and if someone is motivated to examine your life under a microscope then can find any number of things to indict you for.

    I suspect you commit several traffic violations on a weekly if not daily basis for which you are not sanctioned. You've probably committed other crimes over the course of your life or which you have not been sanctioned. If a prosecutor wanted to get you, they could.

    Spare me the "justice is blind" bs. This is 100% politically motivated. Prosecutors who hate Trump turning over every rock and developing "novel legal theories" to find something to charge him with, the NY AG running for public office on the promise they will find something to pursue Trump on. It's a farce.
     
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    Fair enough so then would you agree that claims made by other posters that this is all being done at Biden's behest are far fetched?
    Of course I can make that claim because Hunter Biden has been a big political issue that the Right has been pushing. In that case if the DOJ is out to protect Biden as many claim it would be odd that they would prosecute a case that the Rightwing has been pushing to embarrass Joe Biden.
     
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    Again because Trump draws a lot of attention to himself. For example if I publicly bragged a lot about how much money I was making and how little in taxes I was paying I shouldn't be surprise me if I got audited.

    Again Trump had a lot of lawsuits and audits before he became a politician. What he has always been is a loud mouth braggart.
     
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    Their own words provide the suggestion.
     
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    It's about prosecuting a fellow who broke the law, dude. Keep making things up in the hope that your guy will skate past the law. I hope he doesn't, but you may get your wish anyway, the law be damned.
     
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    It's about political vengeance.

    Several prosecutorial bodies start taking anyone's life under a microscope and developing "novel legal theories" can get anyone.
     
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    No. It's because they don't like him or his politics.

    There are plenty of high profile and/or "loud" people in this world.

    The State AG isn't running for office talking about how they are going to get them.

    Prosecutors office's aren't developing "novel legal theories" to attempt to get them.

    It's because he's a Republican and because they don't like him they are going after him. It's clear as day.
     
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    I'm anti-Trump, but I can admit this prosecution (not the others) is political. This was a prosecutor who went searching for something to charge him with. That doesn't mean Trump is innocent, but this is 100% a case of "I'm going to charge him with something, go find me a crime."
     
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    No, what you quoted was an individual's political reason for hoping he is guilty of breaking the law. The prosecution is following the rule of law. The trial is going mostly according to the rule of law with Trump receiving some preferential treatment.
     
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    It's not because he's a Republican, it's because he's Trump.
     

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