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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Has there ever been a president that was so anti-military?

     
  2. NewRoxFan

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  3. raining threes

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    I'm certainly not going to convince you otherwise but it's been reported by several different news sources.

    Look, this really comes down to do you like how the last 4 years have gone around the world as well as in this country? Or did you like things the way they were when Trump was running the country? Give me no new wars, a secure border and a lower cost of living. I guess to each their own.

    I do remember Trump saying we should buy every barrel of oil we could get our hands on while oil prices were at a record low. Instead Biden has recklessly dipped into our reserves again to lower gas prices just before the election.
     
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  4. raining threes

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    Those that get reparations that are on welfare. Not everyone will be on welfare that gets reparations. I thought that was a given, I guess not.
     
  5. dobro1229

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    You guys will just makeup whatever fantasy you can to try and justify your support of an autocrat who openly wants to overturn democracy.

    Don’t let facts get in the way of your fantasy as well.

    -Biden had nothing to do with encouraging or supporting Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Quite the opposite.
    -Biden’s admin actually warned Israel of the October Hamas attack but Netanyahu was asleep at the wheel, and Biden has been supportive of Israel nonetheless, even at the expense of support from the far left. Something folks like you can’t even give him credit for.
    -The Biden admin and the Dems worked with Republicans on most aggressive Border Bill in history. Yet Donald Trump ordered House R’s to tank the bill in the House just because they wanted something to run on in 24. Hence our border is less secure because of Trump.
    -Global and domestic oil production is at an all time high. Again Biden risks losing support from the left for not doing more to help climate change by cutting oil production via regulation and Biden instead is making decisions to help short term consumer prices and yet you find some bizarre reason to attack him. You really think the US is going to have a situation where we run out of oil?? lol.

    Just fantastical thinking here but really what this narrative is doing is justifying in your own mind the overturning of Democracy in the US for some silly policy reasons. We all know what you really care about and it sure as hell isn’t oil reserves, or war in Ukraine. You want to feel like you are in power via your cleric proxy in Trump. Just admit it.

    Let me give you a little news flash bud… under an autocratic government with a leader that is corrupt as Trump, you will have far far less power as a citizen than you did with any Democrat or Republican. He will use the United States as his own piggy bank, and rob us in turn. Culturally maybe he’ll do some hateful things you like, but keep in mind it will be attacking freedoms that can be turned on you at any given time.

    Lastly- Go look at all the dictatorships around the globe. Go tell me how many of them have unbelievable consumer economic situations for their subjects?? Do you think it is much better economically for normal people living in China, North Korea, or Russia??… because that’s the situation that you are putting yourself in as a citizen who is voting to destroy Democracy just because you really really hate Liberals and just want the short term sugar high of seeing your fellow countryman hurt by hateful policy.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    It is just such strange thing to try and connect. It is like saying you will get free orange juice for life but anyone that accepts that can't play miniature golf anymore.

    It is just totally random.
     
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  7. Andre0087

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    You sound like you're a few cards short of a full deck...
     
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    Trump aligns himself with only the best people. Right?

    Over the past week, Donald Trump rallied alongside two rap artists accused of conspiracy to commit murder. He promised to commute the sentence of a notorious internet drug dealer. And he appeared backstage with another rap artist who has pleaded guilty to assault for punching a female fan.

    As Trump awaits the conclusion of his Manhattan trial — closing arguments are set for Tuesday and a verdict could arrive as soon as this week — he used a weeklong break from court to align himself with defendants and convicted criminals charged by the same system with which he is at war.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-leans-outlaw-image-criminal-122047300.html
     
  9. raining threes

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    TLTR.

    Ask yourself if you liked the 4 years of the Trump POTUS and our world standing, plus things were better at home than they are at now.

    Border bill was a POS. 4,000 a day or 120,000 a month, illegals coming in before they stop it. How about this, Zero a day and Biden did away with the Trump policies that worked when it came to securing the border. Why did Biden do away with Trump's border policies.
     
  10. raining threes

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    Nope, it's a way to help pay for the reparations.
     
  11. raining threes

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    Why do you say this

    You made a post that said not all black people are on welfare and I agree with you.

    Cutting off welfare to people who get reparations will help pay for said reparations. This really isn't hard to understand.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    • 4 years of Trump had grocery stores with no supplies on the shelves.
    • Trump's tax plans actually raised my taxes.
    • There were riots in the streets,
    • there was a pandemic and an incompetent leader heading the nation to try and get out of it.
    • Employment was the worst it's been since the depression.
    • Our standing in the world was horrible.
    • North Korea tricked Trump into backing down on joint US military moves with S. Korea.
    • Russia was humiliating Trump and the United States.
    • Putin benefited from Trump doing his bidding on pulling out of the INF treaty.
    • Trump disregarded and insulted our own intelligence community in front of Putin.
    • Trump couldn't get our allies to do much of anything and didn't take a leadership role in anything internationally.
    • Trump cruelly separated innocent children from their families some of them, apparently forever since they've been unable to find one another since then.
    • More US troops died under Trump's leadership
    • Trump backed down when our forces were attacked
    • Trade deficit with China was worse
    • The president sought to overturn a free and fair election and his followers stormed the capitol and attacked the law enforcement.
    • Trump attacked and denegraded volunteers who sought to serve our nation during the election
    In Biden's term -
    • We've seen record lows of unemployment
    • Wages are up
    • Stock Market hit record highs
    • The US worked with allies to intercept missiles headed for Israel
    • The US worked with allies to help an underdog Democratic Ukraine hold off Russia.
    The country and most of the citizens were much worse under Trump's 4 years. They were horrible for the country.
     
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  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Which part of the border bill were you against?

    • Were you against adding 1,500 new customs Border protection personnel?
    • Were you against adding 4,300 Asylum officers to make asylum process faster?
    • Were you against the increase of detention beds to 50,000?
    • Were you against funding for an additional 100 immigration judges and their associated staff?
    • Were you against the installation of 100 inspection machines to detect fentanyl?
    • Were you against it simply because you don't support the The National Border Patrol Council which endorsed the bill and represents the Border Patrol agents?
    What exactly about the bill did you not like? Biden asked Trump to help fix the bill and work together on it. Biden asked Trump to at least let him know which parts he wanted to change. Trump did nothing m
     
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  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Better ways than ensuring those who you believe deserve reparations have to pay for those reparations. Why not increase taxes on corporations and top 1% of tax payers reduce some of the corporate tax breaks etc.
     
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  16. jo mama

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    show us just one of your news sources to back up your claim that trump ordered 10k national guard.

    you realize that trumps own secretary of defense testified that trump never gave that order, right?
     
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  18. raining threes

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    You're a Biden voter, good for you. Give me a secure border and lower gas/inflation/food prices.
     
  19. raining threes

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    It's been on Newsmax and Fox several times. Care to show me where the secretary of defense said this?
     
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    Because big corporations will just pass the costs on, hurting the middle/lower classes the most.
     

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