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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Well, for your knowledge, I do think your basketball posts are worth reading. I don't always agree, but you represent a certain viewpoint well.

    Your political insights fall well short in terms of quality and debate is not your strong suit. But that's OK!
     
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    Health insurance right now is more affordable than its ever been in history for most Americans. Premiums are capped at 8% for all Americans for first time in history while anyone making under 65k gets free obamacare gold plan
     
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    LOL... how many times did trump invoke executive privilege?
     
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    Biden should highlight how he brought inflation down from the 9% that it was when he took office. That is impressive.
     
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    You mean the 6.2% unemployment rate when he took office while the jobs market was stagnant and not picking up pace? Or how there was no vaccine plan to dispense vaccinations?
     
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    It's genuinely hilarious how all you ever do is post youtube clips and then paint yourself as intelligent. It's honestly funny as hell
     
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    @Reeko might like this segment. I think this is the type of campaigning that you have been talking about the Biden campaign should do.
     
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    I don't know why the far right is worried about young black men voting. According to them young black men are felons and can't vote anyway.
     
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  10. Rustyrig

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    Typical, the left does exactly what they accuse the right of...lol
    So in your thinking, Trump gets zero passes for job loss due to covid, but Biden gets full credit for job growth when things start moving again...got it.
    Both sides are guilty of covering for their own, but if you can't see both sides are corrupted and full of shite...then what makes you different than those you accuse of being "lying sleezebags"...noble must have a different definition now as well.
     
  11. astros123

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    I've never blamed trump for his covid response ever. I actually have said many times trumps trade policies and other policies were better than obamas.

    My issue with trump is he sat back and cheered on violent rioters on January 6 and even told his staff that the rioters had more "courage than mike pence" aka he was okay with his vice president literally being hung.

    Trump has not received a single endorsement from a cabinet member who worked for him in his first term. Not one person has vouched for him whom he put into power.

    There's nothing comparable to January 6 that happened under biden. Quit gas lighting
     
  12. Rustyrig

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    Didn't feel I was "gas lighting"...just my observations. J6th is another narrative that plays in the favor of the left against the right...do you honestly believe everything that has been "reported" about that day? Zero propaganda, just facts? I have tons of questions still. My stance is both sides are full of corruption, and I am trying to filter through the noise to get to whatever truth I can find...I am not either or, I am both...and embarrassed by both frequently. Be well
     
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    Embarrassed conservatives are the only ones who push the "both sides" narrative. Their party voted in Trump and that's embarrassing and that means they have to believe "the left" is just as unhinged. It's a coping mechanism.

    Biden is a old fart but the dude didn't start a scam fake university. There is a comical level of grifting and insincerity with Trump that cannot be matched with "liberals" or "the left".

    When leftists sell gold sneakers as a grift I'll pay attention to your "both sides" bs. When the left has their own version of Amway or mega churches I'll buy into your bs.
     
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    It provides them with an excuse as to why they are continuing to support trump, regardless of whether he is a rapist, a fraud, and someone that incited a insurrection (or "riot" if that is the noun maga's are willing to use) in an effort to overturn the election results.

    Again, we have trump's history. And there was a primary season where trump alternatives were available but it was clear they want trump. So the "both sides" story is just as fake as the rest of the maga story.
     
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  15. Rustyrig

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    And there we go, the true far left feels they are so above question that anyone that does. HAS to be from the "other" side. You can gather up and make excuses, whatever makes you feel better. Perfect forum for those that think they know everything, I see the posts in Rockets, Texans, and Astros, delusional dismissive narcissism, congrats you win nothing. Ultimately you and those like you will lose, instead of engaging those on the fence, you push them to the other side with insults, empowering them and weakening your own. Pretty dumb, for such an intellectual group...but not surprising
     
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    What do you mean by "above question". If you don't believe there has to be this magical "both sides" are equally bad situation, that means you believe "the left" is above question?

    Again, show me the left version of Amway, Trump University, mega churches etc.

    There is this inherent connection between right wing propaganda and grifting.

    Do you want to see my posts about Joe Biden? Do you think I get offended when someone calls him "genocide Joe" in regards to Israel? No. I like most leftists don't care for cult of personalities. How many leftists do you see wear Biden campaign paraphernalia? There is something about right wing politics that inherently promotes cult of personalities.
     
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    I don't speak for 'The Left' nor do I speak for the other posters. I am unashamedly supporting Biden and in the last election and this election I didn't just post about it on Clutchfans but campaigned and donated to Biden's campaign. That doesn't mean I worship or even completely admire Biden. In fact I find Biden's personality very annoying and creepy but I don't look as being President as a position of inherent respect or devotion but weighing the character and capabilities and positions of who would be in that role.

    As such I've tried to stick to the facts and rationality while avoiding insults. Not because I just want to get along with everyone but because I don't feel insulting people online is really productive nor worth my time doing so.

    As such I also still have friends who are Trump supporters who disagree with me on several issues but rather than turn away from them I treat them in our personal dealings as I would like them to treat me. For @astros123 I've actually gotten a couple who did support Trump to say they won't support him again.

    Since you've asked about the facts the facts are that Trump is a conman. This isn't my or MSNBC's opinion but for things like he came into office having to settle over a false university. While in office he had to shut down his foundation because they were conning charities for veterans. Since leaving office he's been found civilly liable for false business practices even as he hawks gold sneakers and NFT's.

    It is a fact that Jan. 6th was motivated by Trump who told his supporters to come to DC and it will "be wild", told them to march to the Capitol, and did nothing for hours while people in his own party, cabinet and even family were begging him to do something. It's also a fact that LEO were assaulted and the Capitol vandalized and defaced. Many of those people who did it admitted so on social media even as they were doing it and admitted that they did it for Trump. Many admitted in court that they were doing it for Trump.

    It is also a fact that many of those who served in Trump's own administration including his Secretaries of Defense and Chief of Staff have said he is unfit for office and a threat to the Constitution.

    None of that means that Biden or the Democrats are perfect and there are legitimate criticisms of Biden and his presidency. None of those though compare to what has been stated above.

    I get and fully understand how people calling you "dumb", "Moron", and etc.. can be hurtful. I've been called that and worse here. I would say that just because someone insults you isn't a good basis to decide on the direction of the country. I'll take you at your word that you're interested in the facts rather than insults so here they are.
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Much respect! I am only interested in what's best for our country, I am not easily offended, and have no loyalties to any man or party that I feel endangers our freedoms. I don't have all the answers and don't pretend to, which is what is concerning with most political conversations in that one or both tend to feel they do. My comment to the previous poster wasn't about me being offended, it was more of a suggestion for dealing with others that might be. If we have an opportunity to enlighten, take the opportunity, instead of giving validation to the doubt. Thanks for the thoughtful reply, I will reply in kind when I have more time...have to get my son to practice, lol Take Care
     
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