We have to trade Sengun

LOL - so you're going to pay Green but trade Sengun? And this person you're trading Sengun for will be on the cheap because otherwise it's a wash. Oh and I assume there will be some midlevel picks involved to "even the trade out" so you won't have to pay fringe roll players much...BRILLIANT!

 

You should loan them to cmoak.

Worried about that vision.

 

Here comes my favorite subject: 'Sengun vs Sabonis'.

That's right but building around Sengun is not harder than other players. The main question was his defense and at 21, he was part of a top 10 defense. So there is not much of a question. Consider Embiid for example. Nobody questions building around him. IMO he is much harder to build around. Sengun doesn't take away from others to assert his game.

Your Sabonis comparison doesn't have any context, at all.

- Sengun is 6 years younger than Sabonis. How many 21 year old players can you casually compare to multiple time old-stars who are 6 years older?

- Sabonis is more efficient but takes less shots. Why does he take less shots? Because he can't create more and that is one major difference maker between the two. Kings has 4 rotation players who has ts% 7% less than Sabonis. They would love to have Sabonis take more shots at the cost of a couple % points in ts% but that is not happening for a reason.

- I don't have the stats on double teams drawn but I am pretty sure Sengun is doubled much more than Sabonis. Another major difference. It is not just the stats. And even it is just the stats, Sengun is posting his stats while constantly drawing double teams.

I could go on forever but there is no world Sengun ends up in the sabonis world, with little impact in lifting up his team. Jokic kills other mvps, dpoys, whole teams. Being closer to Sabonis doesn't mean he will be on a similar level. And Sengun already possesses the skills that will set himself apart from Sabonis stratosphere, it is not wishful thinking, Sengun is already there.

I gave you your answer above: drawing double teams, creating your own shot is the main answer. Also Sengun is obviuosly the better passer, that doesn't reflect in the numbers because of Sabonis's high number of dho's and the rockets not utilizing Sengun with his passing yet.

Edit: Did I mention that Sengun is 21 and has room to grow?

 

Just stop while you are behind.

 

How's embiid hard to build around? He's a monster rim protector, elite post player, elite shooter. If anything, he's the easiest center to build around that exists outside of probably wemby.
If you're talking about his injury history then ya, i agree he's impossible to build around

 

Don’t make excuses. No competitor is going to tank their testing numbers. He isn’t guaranteed number 1

 

That video shows what he tested. Bouncy leaper, solid runner but not an elite athlete by any stretch.
When he tested against potential NBA athletes he was just above an average athlete for a center movement wise.
Leaping is great

 

Potential top pick professional athletes not participating in drills to protect from injury never happens.

 

What are you talking about?

He participated, and I guarantee you he didn’t tank his numbers if he participated.

 

Team building means creating a team where all players can reach their max potentials. If he is easy to build around why doesn't Philly have any playoff success even when he is not injured? Despite playing against much weaker opponents compared to the west, they haven't crushed anyone or they never played like they could be serious contenders.

Embiid needs the ball a lot, moves around slowly and doesn't have a strong game with a guard. This year they finally made it work with Maxey but still the team is nowhere good enough to win it all even if embiid was healthy. Probably all western conference semi-finalists would match favorably against the sixers as well as Boston for sure.

It is very easy to construct teams where he gets his points, his stats because he doesn't need much help from others. Embiid posts his numbers but hardly makes anyone else better on the team. And that is the hardest thing to compensate for when you want to build around. Sengun is quite the opposite. He makes others better and plays in the flow of the game.

On top of all of these he is not a leader and he is injury prone, but that is another story.

 

Potential top picks don't skip due to injury concerns, they skip because they are worried they'll perform poorly and lower their draft position.

 

Which is why I think he could play with Alp.
Even still, he’s as far away as Alp is at a consistent 3:

 

You're better than that Bob. Top picks skip drills all the time. Did you not just watch the NFL combine or any other sports related type things in the last however many years?

So you're in the Sarr's not all that camp?

Noted.

 

He literally did the drills. What you’re talking about doesn’t factor in at all.
He 100% did not tank his testing, he just wouldn’t have tested.

 

Sure, they do skip drills, for exactly that reason.

When prospects have the hype machine behind them, they have no incentive to risk screwing that up with a bad set of drills or exercises.

I think Sarr goes first overall, so I wasn't saying he's not all that, just saying the reason top prospects skip drills and measurements is more to protect their top draft pick status. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

 

Sarr is ok, he’s not anywhere near the prospect Chet/Wemby or even Mobley is.

No one in the league would choose Sarr over any of them and specially not Alp.

 

Funny how we can still look at that and 99.9999999% of people would still take Wemby over Sengun