So weird. Rather than expressing sympathy to the family, sorrow over the loss of the victim, or even desire for justice, the person aims all of their outrage at unidentified terrorist sympathizers. And this is something that was chosen to be spread. It's kind of crazy.
I understand why you said this because it is a false narrative that has been repeated ad nauseum, but it is not true. Also, there is a reason there were only 10,000 Jews left In Israel/Palestine by 1850 (there was an actual genocide of Jews) and why they were subjected to numerous pogroms, massacres and attacks long before the mass immigration of Jews began and up through the 1914 Jaffa deportation and the Hebron Massacre in 1929. Just read the history of Jews in Hebron. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hebron Just 18 years before the Nakba, the Jews were forcibly removed from the land and massacred- just the same as had been occuring for centuries which caused their numbers to dwindle to almost nothing- they were close to extermination due to ethnic cleansing. The hostilities of Palestinians toward Jews is not a result of the mistreatment of Palestinians by Israel starting in 1947 or even due to immigration of Jews after 1880. It was going on when there were only 10,000 Jews left in all of Israel/Palestine.- only 4% of the population! For 1,500 years, the population of the region has not been a homogenous group of Arabs called Palestinians living on the land. The current Palestinian population is not even close to being genetically 100% Arab through DNA testing. Recently, from 1780-1850, there was a huge influx of Egyptians who immigrated to Israel/Palestine. In the late 18th and early 19th centuries, Egypt experienced significant waves of emigration to Palestine. One notable influx occurred in the 1780s due to a severe famine in Egypt. According to one estimate, approximately one-sixth of the Egyptian population migrated during this period, with many settling in Palestine. Between 1831 and 1840, during Muhammad Ali's conquests and later under his son, Ibrahim Pasha, Egyptian settlers and army dropouts settled in Palestine. These immigrants primarily settled in well-established cities such as Jaffa and Gaza. From 1517-1917, there was a 400 year "occupation" of Palestine by the Ottomans, during which a large number of Turks moved into the region. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_Palestine Before that, there was a Mongolian invasion of Palestine (led by Mongol leader Ghazan). The Mongol invasions during the thirteenth century triggered a large-scale movement of Kurds into Palestine. And so on and so on and so on. Pre-state Israel 1922-1947. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-arabs-in-palestine The rapid growth of the Arab population of Palestine was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states – constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel – by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943. The Arab population increased the most in cities with large Jewish populations that had created new economic opportunities. From 1922-1947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent in Jerusalem, and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem. Jewish Land Purchases Despite the growth in their population, the Arabs continued to assert they were being displaced. The truth is from the beginning of World War I, part of Palestine’s land was owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. About 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were debt-ridden peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins. Jews went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as “the most important asset of the native population.” Ben-Gurion said, “under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them.” He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. “Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement,” Ben-Gurion added, “should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price.” It was only after the Jews had bought all this available land that they began to purchase cultivated land. Many Arabs were willing to sell because of the migration to coastal towns and because they needed money to invest in the citrus industry. When Jews began to immigrate to Palestine in large numbers in 1882, fewer than 250,000 Arabs lived there, and the majority of them had arrived in recent decades. But, like judoka said...
What is "kind of crazy" is that a doctor murdered this girl. But that's not what you are focusing on. Inconvenient for your narratives, I know, and that's why it annoys you when someone points that out. From a personal perspective, what I find awful is that I know a doctor from the UK who frequently went to that hospital. We were always friendly with each other. I knew he was quite a devout Muslim, which is fine. But it is hard to believe that he would have spent as much time kn that hospital as he did, without knowing what was going on there. Since 10/7, he has publicly gone full pro-Hamas. Quite shocking.
(it is kind of crazy) Ignoring that portion and just looking at the brief content of the tweet --- it doesn't make much of any sense. I simply ignore these things - not worth the time to read through tweets posted by an unknown individual.
A doctor murdering the person (if that actually is what happened) is definitely crazy, but that wasn't the focus of the Xweet. That was the whole point that I was making. It wasn't a sense of urgency to help out the family or other families. It wasn't anything directed at the murderous doctor. It was directed at an undefined group of people he calls "terrorist sympathizers". It calls into question what is motivating these propagandists.
Correct. That would certainly be a family that could use help and support. I'm not understanding what your confusion is? But it probably isn't worth spending anymore time on it.
What needs to be done is to eradicate Hamas, introduce rule of law and prevent this from happening again. Not a gofundme.
A lot of your perceptions of morality in here about land transfers is based on your modern understanding of what tenants are. Let's be clear. Before the British Mandate, the Ottoman Empire owned the Levant. The Ottoman empire is headed by Turks, not Palestinians. One aspect of dehumanization of Palestinians is pretending that all Muslims are the same. They all have the same interests, same desires, same cultures etc. Its this fake belief that the Ottomans were the same as the Palestinians. European Jews and British colonizers buying land from the Ottoman empire and displacing the native population or "tenants" is equivalent to Americans buying land from the French and not caring for the native populations in those lands. The Ottoman empire did not care for the well being and basic rights of Palestinian serfs that attended the land for multiple generations. What you are trying to do is frame it in the modern sense of the landlord tennant relationship like leasing an apartment unit from a property owner. Multiple generations of your family didn't live on this land. This is just a temporary apartment unit you are renting. For Palestinians this wasn't "rent". This was land they've attended to for multiple generations. Edit: would also like to add another piece of important context in discussion if the era we are referring to. At that point in history the concept of nationalism was still in its infancy for the globe outside of Europe and America. That means regions like the Levant, your allegiance was to you local community, not to some grand identity of a nation. This is important context to understand how little the Ottoman empire cared about the well being of Palestinians. They were just another group of subjects to tax
My point isn’t how many Jews lived there since the fall of the second temple, but that the Jews who did settle there in the name of Zionism did so with the intention of creating a nation and were not “native” and had no more legitimate claim to the land than the Arabs already there. I do believe that the Ottomans would’ve gladly continued to let Zionism go on and made Israel another Vilayet with a Jewish millet system. It was the Arabs and not the Turks who were upset at the plan to carve a Jewish homeland in what was otherwise Arab territory. Hence the Arab war again Israel and the resulting Nakba. From what I have read, the Arab armies were poorly disciplined and smaller compared to the Jewish paramilitary forces so it’s no surprise the Arabs lost.
