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  1. deb4rockets

    deb4rockets Contributing Member
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    For MAGA Republicans and Trump who love coddling Putin and don't want to help fund Ukraine, they are siding with a man who idolizes a pure evil leader of the past. and who would love nothing more than to destroy Western nations.

    Here's a few snippets from a lengthy article. It's worth a read.

    “Russia, Remastered” reveals how Vladimir Putin is harnessing the war in Ukraine to transform his own country and fulfill his vision of a restored superpower.

    By Washington Post staff
    May 6, 2024 at 6:35 a.m. EDT

    For this series — “Russia, Remastered” — our journalists reported extensively in Russia, especially Moscow and St. Petersburg, and central and western parts of the country. They also met with or spoke to Russians living in exile around the world, including officials, analysts, experts and civilians.

    Our reporting also relied on government documents, including presidential decrees, transcripts of Putin’s speeches and remarks at public events, national and local Russian news reports and television broadcasts, social media posts, blogs and Telegram channels.

    Some people interviewed for this series in Russia have since been imprisoned or have fled.

    Vladimir Putin is positioning Russia as America’s most dangerous and aggressive enemy, and transforming his country in ways that stand to make it a bitter adversary of the West for decades to come.

    Putin is forging military partnerships with other totalitarian regimes that also view the United States as a threat, including China, Iran and North Korea.

    The new Russia claims to defend Orthodox values against Western cultural influences. The highly politicized judicial system and media heavily controlled by the Kremlin are being used to crack down on nightclubs and parties, and new patriotic mandates are being imposed on artists, filmmakers and cultural institutions.

    The new Russia is militarizing society and indoctrinating a new generation of patriots.
    Harnessing the war in Ukraine, Putin has engineered a deeply militarized society, rewarding war veterans and their children with places in higher education; introducing military training in schools; and elevating those involved in the war into leadership roles. Telegram channels tell women how to be good soldiers’ wives (by not complaining or crying); schoolchildren make drone fins, trench candles and custom socks for soldiers with amputed limbs. The education system has been imbued with patriotic fervor. Liberal humanities programs are shut down in favor of programs that promote nationalist ideology, and partnerships with Western schools have been canceled.

    The new Russia is glorifying Stalin and rewriting history to whitewash Soviet crimes

    Some people who had close contact with Putin in his early years as president described his fervent mission to rebuild Russia as a superpower and his admiration not only for imperial czars but also for the Soviet dictator and wartime leader Joseph Stalin, who engineered the Great Terror, the purges of the mid-to-late 1930s, sent millions to the gulag system of prisons and forced labor camps, and had about 800,000 people executed for political reasons. At least 95 of the 110 Stalin monuments in Russia were erected during Putin’s time as leader.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...-changes-sweeping-russia-heres-what-we-found/
     
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    Not too cool, dude. If you'll delete it, I'll delete this quote.

    Joking about an alleged beheading of an alleged idiot (if even true, b/c posted on X), by dunking on a fellow poster whom you disagree with?
     
  4. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    History: Today Putin was sworn in for his 5th term, for another 6 years. He is now the longest serving leader of Russia since Stalin.
     
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    Kind of impressive.
     
  6. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    What does that mean though? NATO is all about collective defense, and there is no one running it, but a collective unit. So I don't understand what you mean. Can you be more specific on what you want the US to do and what you want the EU to do as related to NATO, rather than saying "running point" or "being at a distance role"? Are you talking about military spending by NATO nations? Or something else? If spending, what do you want to see?

    That's fine and all, but Americans should know the trade-off for prioritizing countries physically closer to us. Higher prices and potentially a supply chain that is more vulnerable and less redundant than one that prioritizes efficiency and redundancy.

    I did not state anything about a policy of keeping those regions (Asia, Africa, Europe) fractioned, so for now, I'm not responding to that.
     
  7. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    it has been an effective dick, i mean dictator move
     
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    The story is real and authentic. A boomer was brainwashed by listening to right wing media on social media and thought of fighting for the opposition bcz of the conspiracies he heard? It's a real story and it shows the impact of disinformation.

    Obviously I was joking about @Space Ghost nd if he's offended for some reason I apologize but the moral of the story is real. Disinformation can ruin people's lives
     
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    It literally sounds like numerous posters from this thread
     
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  10. Nook

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    Hmm... still waiting for the trillions of dollars stolen from the American people through the Trump tax cuts to be taken back.

    Get back to me about the 60 billion after the trillions are addressed.
     
  11. deb4rockets

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    Who in this thread supports Putin?

    I certainly don't.
     
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    It's a pretty wide coalition. You have lefties @glynch who claims supporting ukraine is leading to more deaths, you have right wingers @basso @El_Conquistador who want to somehow blame biden for putin aggression and then you have your "libertarians" @Space Ghost who are just ignorant.

    Horseshoe is real
     
  13. Amiga

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    lol
     
  14. Nook

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    Yeah those groceries are really expensive now, I can see how you cannot afford them.

    Hey - don't worry though, Donald Trumps gave the wealthiest corporations TRILLIONS of dollars in tax cuts and I am sure that they will pass their profits on to you.
     
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    From the perspective of world powers, Africa is viewed as the bottom of the barrel.

    I know that sounds bad - but it has passed from the UK, to the USA.... then China was interested and the USA didn't even care... and now Russia is getting involved.
     
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    This guy was REALLY weird.

    Someone said they thought he was @glynch earlier.

    This guy had mental issues.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Congress needs to put in a TRUTH in NEWS act, where you are responsible for telling the TRUTH if you call yourself NEWS and if you are not news, you need something that says OPINION on screen when it is not fact.

    Same for Twitter, FB and Tik-Tok - they should be responsible for what is on their platform being truthful.

    DD
     
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  18. deb4rockets

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    That would be great, but unfortunately some of the biggest spreaders of false truths and propaganda are the nutjobs in Congress themselves, and they want people to believe fake news. They love spreading propaganda and lies on those rightwing "news" networks. They follow the lead from the biggest liar of them all, the orange man, who spits out lies compulsively.
     
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    Inauguration VIP.
     
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