Let's look at the numbers 34,000+ how many of those Can be an attributed to negligence from Hamas as far as taking the food first or Themselves killing civilians, such as unintended, ordinances or rockets going off and also how many of those 34000+ are indeed Hamas ?
All the deaths are caused by Hamas. The civilian-to-combatant death ratio from the IDF's response is much lower than in other wars, despite Hamas using civilians as human shields. There was no war before October 7. Hamas started the war. Israel did not "create" Hamas. Those who drag out old messages about Netanyahu talking to Qatar about letting funding for Hamas go through are doing the classic thing about blaming Jews for their own suffering. Hamas was/is the government, and they were hoping they would eventually become less radical. The current conditions stem from "Palestinian" hate against Jews and Israel. The indoctrination from a childhood age leads to the violence and terror and murders, and then obviously, a reaction happens. What do people expect Israel to do, just let it happen? Hamas must be destroyed. Everything else just leads to them building up their weapons arsenal again, continuing the indoctrination, murdering more civilians (both Israeli and in Gaza) and more death and suffering in the longer term. But there also needs to be a plan for the day after Hamas is removed from power; and it cannot be the UN, as they have been completely corrupted and basically been supporting the hate and indoctrination against Israel, and the stockpiling of weapons. That's simply a numbers game - there are like 50+ Muslim nations in the UN, and they are almost all against Israel, just look at who is chairing the UN "disarmament" and "human rights" groups - Iran and Saudi. You cannot destroy Hamas and then just let the "Palestinians" try to self-govern. It's a completely depraved and sick society. Something else would just replace Hamas, possibly under a different name, but doing the same stuff. That society needs a "de-nazification" like Germany after 1945.
Large parts of Gaza have been leveled, the civilians in Gaza have been told and forced to leave their homes, they are living are refugees in camps - many of them women, children and the elderly. They have not gone to school, they have not worked - they have no homes to go home to in many cases. It is a humanitarian crisis - in a region of the world that is very precariously balanced. I am not saying that Hamas does not bear some responsibility as well - but so does Israel. The question was what has changed - and this is the answer. That doesn't even get into the fact that Israel is not capable of destroying Hamas.
There is no content to address. Gaza City is a city of 500,000+ and has been besieged by the IDF since October. Northern Gaza is in an IDF imposed famine. The world is seeing it in real time, they know Hamas killed a 1000 plus Israelis on 10/7, and yet the people across the globe still don't like it. Osama Bin Laden's al Qaeda knocked down the World Trade Center and attacked the pentagon on 9/11 and killed almost 3000 people. Yet, George W. Bush was very explicit about how this is not a war on the actual people but al Qaeda, Taliban, and then Saddam. There are no hearts and minds campaigns by the IDF. No peacekeeping. No interim governments. It's just politically driven retribution. Bin Laden was living in Abbottabad Pakistan, but we did not bomb the whole city to kill him.
No they aren't. We don't know how many are dead - we only know those that have died in a hospital setting. Hamas started the war? No - Hamas started this battle, the war has been going on for nearly 60 years. Israel pushed the Palestinians out, they were oppressive to them for years, controlled their borders, controlled their economy and controlled their very existence - all while encouraging Israeli Jews to open settlements in Palestinian areas. Israeli policy certainly played a large part in the growth of Hamas. They were more concerned with stopping the PLO and Abbas. They openly let the founder of Hamas preach hate in the streets and grow in numbers..... they let Hamas leadership also bring in money, etc. all in an effort to stop the spread of Abbas and more moderate movements.... because they wanted a fractured Palestinian movement. No - the current conditions stem from Brittain letting the Jews move into the area and displace all of the Palestinians. Then in the occupied zones, Israel controlled the area post wars and have controlled all basic parts of life in the occupied zone, from the economy to settlements and further displacements to the borders even. That is the biggest reason Palestine has been a **** hole. It may well have been a **** hole either way - but the current engagements can be traced back to that point. Hamas must be destroyed? I must grow wings and fly. Hamas isn't going to be destroyed. Hamas is in Iraq and Iran, and likely in Kuwait and Egypt as well. So Hamas can be injured but not destroyed. Further - Hamas is like a weed, it will grow back with a different name. The best way to prevent Hamas is to not have an oppression and poverty. Part of the issue with Israel is that subrogation and apartheid doesn't look good to the rest of the world. South Africa had to deal with this as well - it is hard to navigate. The reality is that Israel needs the USA - and in the short term Israel is stable with support from the US - but the opposite long term. So Israel needs to threat the needle. Further oppression and brutality is not the solution. Further - a one state solution isn't something the Jews want either, because there are more Arabs than Jews. So that mean a forced two state solution where Israel just starts building a wall and leaves the Palestinians on the other side - or the culling of the Palestinians. Yeah - when you create a monster it is really difficult to keep it killed. Something that Israel should have thought about many decades ago. That society will only change with prosperity. They are surrounded by other nations with negative opinions of Israel. The situation that Israel finds herself in is very difficult - much by her own making. However, there are some things that she can do that long term will help. Getting rid of Bibi would be a good start.
I respect you otherwise, but there is so much nonsense in this post that it is really hard to respond to it. All this stuff about "apartheid" and "oppression" is wrong, as is the false notion that Israel "created the monster". All of this absolves the "Palestinians" from responsibility for their own hate and their own actions. Jews got murdered by Arabs long before the current state of Israel got created. The religious ideology of Islam and the personality of its founder - who murdered Jews himself - play a big role in this. Furthermore, to say this has been a war for 60 years and that 7/10 was "just a battle", again, is basically the cynical Hamas argument that their actions were "resistance". No, they were not. 7/10 was the biggest murder of Jews since the holocaust. Why did Israel have to control their borders? Because all they did was bring terror weapons in, and send suicide bombers.
You are ignoring facts, documented laws and military orders from Israel. It is true that Arab residents did murder Jews in the area before the creation of the Israeli state. It is also True that Zionists and future Israeli leaders murdered and massacred Palestinians before the creation of the Israeli state.
A lot more people got killed in response to 9/11 than in response to 7/10. Oh, by the way, do you know what both 9/11 and 7/10 had in common? They were motivated by Islam. And you know how much Saddam had to do with 9/11? Nothing. Supposedly we didn't know where he was.
Hamas is bluffing to this peace deal to make Israel look bad when Israel says No and goes ahead and invades Rafah.
@Xopher another day and nothing changes. He's literally obsessed with Islam. All he does is spam anti Islam stuff in literally every thread
Bibi wants to prolong this as long as he can. Other conservatives in his coalition believe that by not going into Rafah they have failed. It has never been about getting the hostages home. It's been about political survival and retribution.
The ones obsessed with Islam were the ones who flew planes into the World Trade Center and murdered "infidels" on 7/10. Not me. Or are you claiming that the 9/11 and 7/10 attackers (and the Charlie Hebdo murderers, etc. etc. etc. etc.) were Mormons or Buddhists?
Exactly this. They know they are about to get their asses handed to them, so they pretend to be willing to compromise.
