How many of you support releasing VIOLENT criminals like this back into the streets?

As long as they make something stick on Trump, they don't care about anything else to others

 

I cannot, but I suppose there must be some argument for it. People are inventive.

 

In the judicial system, he is presumed innocent until convicted and has been let out on supervised release after he posted bail. That's a founding principle of our country enshrined in the Constitution. And the one that lets Trump run around campaigning for president with many indictments against him. Don't know why you hate our country so much.

 

How many of y'all spore diss


Anti fungal losers

 

For me, the issue isn't that he's allowed to post bail and be released until he gets his day in court, but that the bail was set so low given the felony charge, the clear video evidence that he committed a violent crime without any apparent motive, and his past history with committing assaults.

 

Trump is going to release tons of convicted violent criminals back into society. You might want to start with asking Trump supporters.

 

Woke people love crime and most of all
They love drugs
Especially fentanyl

 

That sounds like you want them to treat him like he's guilty. Does "too low" mean low enough that he could afford to post it? Do you have experience in bail setting that you know what is the going rate?

Courts have a whole framework built for making bail decisions. There are considerations of whether a defendant is a risk to the community, for instance. And judges can set conditions on the bail with varying amounts of supervision. They did a whole process that considers the various interests and came to a conclusion. Then the NY Post and people on the Internet come in afterward without any specific details on the court's assessment or the conditions of the man's release to scream that the court must have gotten it wrong. If you love your country and you believe in our founding document, you would at least learn about and consider what the court process looked like before jumping to conclusions.

On the issue of mass shooters, this bail framework I mentioned probably would point judges toward finding a shooter to be a flight risk, a suicide risk, and/or a risk to the community and deny bail after a considered process. I think, in general, mass shooters probably shouldn't get bail but each one deserves their own process and there might be an outlier in which bail could be extended.

 

I don't support releasing convicted violent criminals back into the street (of course, without serving their time). You are a hardcore Trump supporter. So why don't you ask yourself why you support someone who plans to release many convicted violent criminals back into society?

 

Treating him like he's guilty would mean sentencing him for assault without trial, which is not what I'm suggesting.

I'm not opposed, in principle, to this person posting bail and being released until his trial. If the bail amount is what is typical for these type of offenses and for people with his criminal record, then fine -- I guess that's just the process we have.

What did he end up having to pay? It actually sounded like he didn't have to post any bail, despite the charges being (justifiably) upgraded to second degree assault. That does not make sense to me.

 

NY Post says $25k cash or $50k bond. If the point of bail is to make sure someone shows up for their court date, do you think that will do the trick? I assume it was a bond, which would mean the bonding company will send a bounty hunter for him if he doesn't show.

 

The article said that the judge denied that request:

The Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office requested $25,000 cash bail or $50,000 bond on the upgraded charges, but Brooklyn Supreme Court Justice Matthew Sciarrino turned down that request.​

The article gives me the impression that he was granted release without having to post any bail, based on the initial misdemeanor charge. Maybe I'm mistaken.

 

The Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office asked for $25,000 cash bail or $50,000 bond for the upgraded charges Brooklyn Supreme Court Justice Matthew Sciarrino refused the request His next court date in Brooklyn is July 2 OLD SAME CASE: The suspect, 33-year-old Franz Jeudy, was arrested for assault but released without bail, despite previous arrests in 2018 for assaulting a police officer and in 2019 for assault

 

Thank you for that correction. I don't know what it is then.

 

Very cool, you're not a Trump supporter. Good for you. You shouldn't have any problem being yourself and calling out Trump supporters for backing someone who plans to release many convicted violent criminals back into society. Get on that high horse and holler, you've got a talent for it. Go K9Texan!