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Random Trade Thread 2023-24

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jul 10, 2023.

  1. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Member

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    I think you are probably right. I would consider Melton for the MLE and turning lesser assets like Tate into future assets, a successful offseason.
     
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  2. J.R.

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    George could also have a larger market than only teams with cap space this summer. Theoretically, George could opt into his contract and be traded with the understanding he’d work out a new deal, which would open up possibilities for teams like the Kings, Heat, Rockets, Mavericks, and others looking to acquire another star to fortify their championship contending chances going into next season.
    https://hoopshype.com/lists/clipper...james-harden-ty-lue-lawrence-frank-pj-tucker/
     
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  3. tycoonchip

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    Welp if he's looking to join a contender Houston is definitely not his place.
     
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  4. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I'd love to upgrade from Dillon Brooks to Mikal Bridges. Similar defense but with better rebounding, floor spacing, transition and overall scoring. That would make the game slightly easier for Sengun and Green. Reduces the pressure on Green/FVV to take so many 3's - I would love to slightly reduce both of their 3PA.

    As our starting 3 and backup 4 Bridges would give us a ton of good minutes playing mostly off FVV, Amen, Alpi and Green in the offense. We've seen that he's not a primary playmaker but he can certainly help in that department at times. Definitely an overqualified 3rd scorer if you ask me. I think Ime is a good coach to help him keep working on his game and see if more development is possible.

    Assuming Jabari continues to improve his 3PT% - in fact I expect a 3PT explosion from him next season - I'm loving this rotation:

    Sengun/Adams
    Jabari/Bridges
    Bridges/Tari
    Green/Whitmore
    FVV/Amen

    For that yes I'm willing to give up our pick this summer as long as it doesn't land in the top 4. I'm assuming they'd want us to convert Brooks into another future first for them which is doable. So they get a great pick, a decent pick and an expiring contract. I think time is running out on the BS that Marks has leaked to the media. He is not going to get a big haul for Bridges now that we've seen his limitations and needs to be moved into a 3rd scorer role. Even if they get offered 3 picks, I doubt any single one of them is better than the 2024 pick we hold.
     
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  5. glimmertwins

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    Why though? Aside from Embid(who has aged in dog years) who is a star when healthy- but is rarely healthy, all the rest of those guys are just some version of medium comps of current players on this roster 4-6 years in the future(and paid more obviously). You’re telling me Jalen doesn’t have a decent chance to be a low efficiency chucker like Brandon Ingram, Young, or Murray? Jabari can’t be a Markanen type player with a little better defensive versatility? These guys are all nice pieces but we don’t need an older version of our Robins when we are still looking for out Batman.
     
  6. Corrosion

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    Have to see what they do with their draft picks - if they keep them.

    The draft pick has to be paid out of either cap space or an exception.

    If the pick stays at #9 it'll cost $5,773,800

    The worst that pick can fall to is #12 which will cost $4,950,480.


    A top 4 pick will have a cost between $12,605,760 and $9,131,760.


    The only exception that covers the Nets pick is the MLE $12,859,000 - the BAE comes in at $4,681,000 and isn't enough to cover the worst potential landing spot (12).


    They might have ~half the MLE left, if they get lucky they won't have much if any left.
     
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  7. carl_herrera

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    First round draft picks don’t get paid out of exceptions for above the cap teams (which we will be operating as).

    Or rather, there is a “rookie exception” for all first round pick salaries that is used.

    Our pick has no impact on the MLE or BAE.
     
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  8. OremLK

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    Not saying I necessarily think we should trade for him (might depend on Ainge's asking price), but why are we thinking Lauri is getting extended? Was that reported recently?

    I would be angling to get a younger player back for him if I were Ainge, preferably one with at least a long-shot chance at developing into a #1 option. Jazz are basically at the beginning of their rebuild, a year or two behind us on timeline. Lauri makes very little sense as a building block for a team 5+ years out from contention given he's turning 27 soon, and I doubt his value will ever be higher than it is right now.
     
  9. Castian Crew

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    Whatever happens this off season, we went from 22 wins to 41 by adding 2 so-so players with low FG efficiency, and a new coach. I think the next step happens with a huge trade or two. Not keen on Paul George being the savior (especially for Green) but who knows. Maybe we sign Harden to $10 mil and have him come off the bench lol
     
  10. astrosrule

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    Would you do something like jabari, cam, and 2-3 firsts?
     
  11. Joe Joe

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    I don't see next season as a championship contending season without a major move. Assuming no major upgrade is available, I'd look at downgrade options for FVV to see if Rockets could get a starting PG as a bandaid, but pick up picks (e.g., D. Russell, pu pu platter, and 2-3 FRPs), or trades involving at least a protected FRP for a combination of one of Adams and Landale, Brooks, Tate, and Green the Elder. Though trading FVV would likely involve a third team as it might be tough to get a PG from team needing FVV. Wouldn't want to downgrade below say Russell, Brogdon tier. FVV would do wonders in Orlando with Suggs being able to take the quick little shitts.
     
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  12. TimDuncanDonaut

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    Need one more move. Internal growth alone is not enough. Team couldn't get into the play-in this year.
     
  13. TimDuncanDonaut

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    I'd dangle Amen, which might be unpopular here, but if people here like him, Clippers GM might as well. And could let you outbid other teams for PG.

    One year of Amen's non-shooting at HOU, GMs can overlook it; but if two years, Amen's trade value will drop.


    Getting a Paul George (playmaker /slasher / spacer) while getting rid of a non-shooter (Amen), will open up Jalen and Alp's game.
     
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  14. OremLK

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    No way. PG is 34 years old, we're not contending before he becomes totally washed and/or retires.

    I would only consider trading Amen if we were getting a top 5ish player in his 20s back. He probably has the highest ceiling on the entire team, and even if he doesn't ever learn to shoot, he's on track to become our best defensive player in the near future (if he isn't already there)
     
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  15. TimDuncanDonaut

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    :D
     
  16. daywalker02

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    The Rox are Vultures and the Clippers have Ballmer the arguably wealthiest of all NBA owners.

    PG13 might be 34 but I think he has more options than say Jimmy Butler just on the shooting alone although Jimmy has become a playoff performer.

     
  17. Corrosion

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    No Way.

    That's far too much.
     
  18. astrosrule

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    I agree, i wouldn’t either. That’s the type of package it would take though. Lauri is like 27 and the way he plays he has 5-6 awesome seasons left
     
  19. carl_herrera

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    Lauri Markannen is 100% getting re-negotiated and extended by the Jazz because:

    - Lauri wants it. By doing this Markannen gets a $20M “gift” in 2024-25 that he *cannot* get anywhere else, or in any other scenario. It also enables him to extend off the new higher base, which is the only way he can lock his next contract as a max contract this summer. He otherwise is not eligible for any extension at a number he’d sign for.

    - Utah wants it. It’s basically the same scenario as Sabonis in Sac. Utah doesn’t sign free agents. Free agents leave Utah. Utah does not want Markannen to get to free agency. Even if they want to trade Markannen, his trade value right now is relatively surpressed because any team that trades for him cannot extend him, meaning Markannen will be a FA next summer and could very easily leave any team that trades for him.

    If Utah wants to keep Markannen long term, the move is renegotiate and extend to keep him out of free agency. If they want to trade him, the move is renegotiate and extend so his value is higher.
     
  20. OremLK

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    I suppose my question is--Is his value actually higher extended? I suppose it depends on the extension, but I was assuming max dollars. He's a helluva steal right now for a lot of contenders/fringe contenders at $18M.
     

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