The Presidents of Harvard, MIT, Penn, Columbia should be forced to resign

“Kill the Jews” is a call to kill anyone who is a Jew, including on campus. That is a very different sentiment than shouting Palestinian solidarity slogans. Those slogans clearly mean different things to different people, whether or not you wish to acknowledge that.

You think many protesters would be fine with someone among them literally saying “Kill the Jews” (and all that implies). I’ve yet to see any direct evidence of it, and I’d be shocked and repulsed if it’s true, even if a worryingly large number of them mistakenly think Hamas are the good guys and are generally (by all accounts) in denial regarding the atrocities their fighters committed on 10/7.

Now, I really don’t enjoy continuing this quarrel with you. I like discussing and debating stuff, but not when it gets heated and accusatory. To the extent I contributed to that, my apologies. I’m going to stop responding now.

 

All you got to do is lock all the bathrooms
These are woke white kids , they don’t want port o potties
@AroundTheWorld

let’s go Israel !
See what happens when the Jewish parents don’t donate to these schools

 

Biden using our tax dollars to pay their loans

 

While the encampment protests have spread to Canada as well, at Columbia, it looks like the University and the protesters are working to de-escalate. The University let Friday's deadline for removing the camps lapse without action.

Pressure on the University is also coming from faculty members who walked out en masse to protest against the president's decision to crack down with police force.

 

This ain’t the 90s when people were scared of the LAPD
These kids would have been beaten so bad they swim to the river to sea
@Salvy

 

They, like the vast majority of Americans, stand up for freedom of expression. It's a bedrock principle guaranteed in the First Amendment. Seriously, any real supporter of the First Amendment should know this. The university realized they overreached by calling the police to crackdown on peaceful protesters and is now trying a de-escalation approach - good for them.

(One can be pro or anti-Zionist, pro- or against the protest, but for the right of peaceful protest; people aren't all in or all out like you think, they are much more complex with multiple and different viewpoints, something you seem to have repeatedly failed to grasp or cannot accept.)

 

@AroundTheWorld
@ROXRAN
@CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

 

I keep reading this - and it is pretty simple.

Florida has a very different student body.

Florida is not a good state for colleges, there are no elite colleges in Florida.

I roll my eyes at some of the statements made at the protests (although not all of those protesting are students), but those schools tend to get more attractive and accomplished students than a school like Florida or Florida State does.

 

LMFAO

 

This reminds me of old times when I was in college - yeah lots of entitlement, we could do just about anything we wanted as long as we did not rape or steal. We would be notified of issues by some professors or administrators and we (the athletes) and the more popular frat would come in and take care of the situation like these... when it became "punishment time" we never got in trouble. Looking back on it, I can see why there would be some resentment by others - but I will not lie, it was a lot of fun. We had the Storm Front group removed by force, we got the new Black Panthers scared and running away and we stopped the socialist group after they started throwing rocks at cars.

I miss those days.

 

I don’t think that’s entirely fair. You’ve got some of the worst happening at places like Cal Poly Humboldt and a Rollins — I would talk UF or FSU over that lot any day.

What is not entirely clear to me — what is student driven vs. professional organizer driven? At UT-Austin, I think I saw half of the arrests were not affiliated with the university. I would imagine very similar at the USC/UCLA ones. I do think the linkages and tie-ins to the DSA and Marxist orgs are quite interesting; it makes me question what this is really, truly about.

To your point though, the Khymani James and Mohamed Abdou issues at Columbia to me are textbook cases of loss of institutional control. You have one person livestream *their own* disciplinary hearing showing interest in murdering people, and another who the President of the University said in front of Congress had been fired somehow showing up in all places with no repercussions.