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Amen Thompson - Point [Forward or Guard?]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Oct 6, 2023.

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Where should Amen spend most of his minutes?

  1. Guard

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    58.5%
  2. Forward

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    32.8%
  3. other

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    8.7%
  1. heypartner

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    If you sign players to what they’re worth (incl. the max), you can always trade your way out of salary-cap problems.

    that’s a legitimate way to approach it, and seems to be what Stone said in the interview.
     
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    I'm no "guru," but I have thought about this a lot because I, too, believe Amen will get a max. So, rookie max = 25% of a team's cap. Our contracts are also setup well for extensions -- a Sengun/Green extension would kick in after we can decline FVV's option, and Amen's extension would kick in after Brooks comes off the books.

    In this vein, you probably have enough room for 3 rookie max contracts AND a big, non-max contract, though things would be tight. As such, it would be possible to, say, sign Green, Amen, and Sengun to maxes and someone like Bari to a big, non-max. That doesn't leave a ton of room, though. In this regard, I'm offering Sengun the max this offseason and Green a non-max. If Green wants a max, let him earn it, then figure it out later if he does.
     
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    What do you mean by this? Aren’t yearly increases and decreases to NBA contracts still limited by 8%?
     
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryant...kie-scale-extension-deadline/?sh=4bd266ac51a0

     
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    Yeah, I think you're right. I misread that.
     
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    Paying the tax to keep the core six together is way more palatable than paying to keep washed Ariza on the team esp since he was part of that 0-23 brigade.
     
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    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...-2023-24-all-nba-all-defense-all-rookie-teams
     
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    Let me toss this one out for thought:

    Amen is Aaron Gordon except he's an even better defender and shot blocker, can sometimes beat defenders off the dribble to both distribute and finish and has better floor vision.

    I also think he'll end up becoming a decent mid-range shooter, unlike Gordon.

    If Amen learns to effectively play the point position on a full or part time basis, then the gap between grows very large.
     
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    Very interesting thought.
     
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    From this video, his non-FT form reminds me of Steph Curry and Tyrese Halliburton. Those guys start their shooting motion lower than normal and don't really pause the ball at the release point. It's smooth and continual. I think this compensates for the low release point and makes the shot a bit harder to block.

    I absolutely cannot relate to shooting the ball this way. I remember little kids shooting like this when playing against bigger kids (and because their wrists weren't strong enough).

    Like everyone else, I'm used to watching Curry's form but it's painful for me to watch Halliburton shoot. I sure hope this works for Amen.
     
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    Yeah, he always starts so low. It's weird. At least the release point looks higher, shot has more arc, and motion looks more fluid--if he can maintain these improvements into games.
     
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    Best rookies by EPM:

    1. Chet, +3.4 EPM, 10.5 WAR
    2. Wemby, +4.1 EPM, 10.2 WAR
    3. Amen, +1.5 EPM, 4.2 WAR
    4. Podz, +0.1 EPM, 4.1 WAR
    5. Lively, +1.6 EPM, 4.1WAR


     
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    Any word on how Ausar is doing with the clots?
     
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