I think this is a very controversial statement and that it would require a lawyer, more precisely a military legal expert, to even begin to get clarity on it. Civilians who stick around in warzones are taking their lives in their own hands. Unfortunately for the Palestinian civilians, unlike most recent urban conflicts, there isn't really an elegant way for them to get out of harm's way. Hamas is counting on this, and also contributing to the problem at the same time.
Sam Harris has major issues in his inability to believe certain groups of humans are motivated by their suppression of their Maslow hierarchy of needs rather than inherent ideological evil.
Yes yes, we know you think all of this is motivated primarily if not exclusively by Israel being a big ol' meany head. The depth of your intellect is truly astounding. We're all in awe. I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
I don't think Sam Harris has an ounce of empathy or intellectual curiosity of the Muslim population. His entire narrative is fueled by Islamic literature rather than actual analysis of socioeconomic conditions, power dynamics etc. He is incapable of believing a Gazan is capable of having nihilistic thoughts form from their lived in experiences which leads to extremism. He can't fathom the fact that a human born into Gaza might feel like they've been delt one of the worst hands in civilization history where they hope that this one shot in life they got isn't the only shot in life where there is some eternal next life waiting for them after their misery. He can't understand that.
Thank you for posting, @DonnyMost. I listened to the first 15 minutes. Sam Harris very calmly basically sums up everything I think about this conflict.
I'm not a military legal expert, but I was trained as a lawyer, and certainly in the two jurisdictions in which I was admitted to the bar (New York and Germany), this would definitely not qualify as murder.
I am in awe you have the wherewithal to drop the Maslow hierarchy of needs into otherwise polite internet chit chat.
Military law is a different animal. Beyond that, I think that in most of America if you shot at someone hiding behind an innocent person and killed the innocent person you could be on the hook for something like involuntary manslaughter or reckless endangerment. This would be especially possible if you had the ability or duty to retreat, etc. I could absolutely see the ruling depending on the lawyers and judges involved, not black/white or open/shut at all. Unless you're a cop... then qualified immunity yay!
Did you just get on Wikipedia, look up Sam Harris videos, Joe Rogan guests (that have little understanding and are at best superficial actors in all this) and proclaim to lecture other people? you’ve said some insanely r****ded things. Just one post above you think people staying in war zones like Gaza are putting their own lives at risk and are culpable when the other side uses an AI extermination program to coordinate when any male above 15 is going home so that non-precision guided missiles can anhialate their whole family (Israeli intelligence admission not mine) Please, exercise and workout that 1 brain cell. Pray tell why that may be thatthey are there (hint it’s not necessarily their choosing). It’s not that hard, even the rudimentary wiki articles and podcasts touch on it. They even migrated certain zones within that region to get away and you’re looking at the results from the places they evacuated to repeatedly. The rafah debacle is a microcosm of all of it. The rest, I won’t even bring up, if you want your eyes and rationale to deceive you, you’re too far gone and a couple steps towards ATWs final solution of gassing all the browns/musloms.
This dude actually believes this all started on October 7th. The outrage on the WCK killings is something that happens every day. To brutalize and oppress a people in this way and joke that any hatred they have is “Israel being meanies” is disgusting you have tens of thousands of children dead under the rubble, but yea it was their fault. Not the people firing that have no regard for who/what they’re shooting
I don't really value your opinion much on this topic, so, waste of breath as far as I'm concerned. Also, watch your language. People get banned around here for slinging r-words.
If one follows the link, that’s not what the health ministry is saying. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/0...th-ministry-admits-to-flaws-in-casualty-data/ They are not saying those fatalities didn’t happen, but rather there is “incomplete” data for them. Where: In a statistical report, the ministry notes that it considers an individual record to be incomplete if it is missing any of the following key data points: identity number, full name, date of birth, or date of death. It can’t be assumed that those deaths just didn’t happen because there is some missing data concerning them. Also, it can’t be assumed that the death total given by the health ministry necessarily includes the militant deaths reported by Israel, which is the implication of the tweet.
