Netanyahu's strategy seems to be erasing Palestinians from what he sees as Zion. He's always wanted this. All that horses**t about the "great intelligence failure" that led to Hamas' attack last October. Give me a break. The Mossad misses little, if anything, of every little bit that happens in that area of the world. And Israel had been warned something was imminent. Netanyahu needed a pretext to eradicate the current inhabitants of Gaza. Biden's stuck between a rock and a hard place because any criticism of Israel's terrorism provokes screeches of anti-Semitism and boycotted votes in November 2024 and anything less leads to Muslim Americans and boycotted votes in November 2024. But that's okay, Trump will fix everything.
@AroundTheWorld according to the right wing losers its hamas fault that israel is refusing to follow the rule of law! Blame hamas for everything!
We call it a "loose trigger finger". They are vetting targets like I vet my individual french fries before I eat them.
Biden will be the last pro Israel democratic president well ever have. Younger generation doesn't buy the whole "if you dislike Israel you are antisemitic" bs that right wing dipshits call everyone. Majority of Israeli Americans who are under 35 are very anti bibi and lean heavily to the left. Bibi has lost the global south long time ago and all of Europe/Asia is over bibi. Israel has no more allies other than the American right and that will only hold for a few more decades. The boomers are dying thankfully amd the next generation of folks just don't care for Israel the same.
They have on occasion expressed “regret” for unintended harm to civilians and that they would try to learn lessons from those incidents. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-airstrike.html Israel Expresses Regret for ‘Unintended Harm’ to Civilians in Gaza Airstrike The Israeli military said it was “working to draw lessons” from an attack in central Gaza that was reported to have killed dozens of people. I don’t think they’ve ever directly apologized to the families in Gaza who are impacted by such “unintended harm”. If 30,000 is in reference to the numbers of counted dead by the Gaza Health Ministry, then we don’t know how many of them are civilians. Women+children count may be a reasonable proxy for that. Last I saw somewhere around 70% of the identified dead are women and children, so 20K dead civilians as a lower bound seems fair.
Israel is experimenting with AI in Gaza. Horrifying. “ This is without a doubt one of the most important pieces of reporting on Gaza, and by far one of the most disturbing: 972mag.com/lavender-ai-is… All by Israeli journalist @yuval_abraham based on whistleblower accounts from within the IDF and intelligence agencies. Israel has developed an AI called "Lavender" to generate kill lists, with almost no human verification to double check the targets selected by the machine: only a a “rubber stamp” check of about “20 seconds” just to make sure the AI target is male. Moreover, the Israeli army "systematically attacked the targeted individuals while they were in their homes — usually at night while their whole families were present — rather than during the course of military activity". In fact Israel developed another automated system called “Where’s Daddy?” used "specifically to track the targeted individuals and carry out bombings when they had entered their family’s residences" One of the intelligence officers who spoke to Abraham is quoted in the article: “We were not interested in killing [Hamas] operatives only when they were in a military building or engaged in a military activity. On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without hesitation, as a first option. It’s much easier to bomb a family’s home. The system is built to look for them in these situations.” In fact the article reveals a ratio, I think for the first time: "according to two of the sources, the army also decided during the first weeks of the war that, for every junior Hamas operative that Lavender marked, it was permissible to kill up to 15 or 20 civilians... The sources added that, in the event that the target was a senior Hamas official with the rank of battalion or brigade commander, the army on several occasions authorized the killing of more than 100 civilians in the assassination of a single commander." A ratio of 20 civilians killed for one target works out to about 95% civilian deaths.”
They believe that they can destroy and take Gaza and continue cracking down in the West Bank, and once they have the land they want - they will try to diplomatically repair their relationships.
You can't be surprised? Israel has oppressed Gaza for decades, and now they are making a transparent land grab and killing civilian Palestinians. Of course they want Tel Aviv bombed....... and this isn't going to magically stop when Israel decides they have done enough. That hatred and animosity will survive for at least a generation, if not more. So, Israel now will have even more conflict for many years.
Just like Islamic extremists - Jewish extremists will go to any level to defend and exonerate those in their tribe that commit atrocities. **** this guy.
Sometimes I imagine @AroundTheWorld posts everything on his feed for people here to filter out for him. But mostly it feels like a boomer uncle shotgunning every insane or inane Facebook or social media conspiracy and seeing what sticks.
You do realize @AroundTheWorld is an extremist right? Call balls and strikes fairly Why do you give him the benefit of the doubt? Have you ever thought the opposite was true? That he beleives in all of the stuff he posts or that he's even more radical than what he posts but he doesn't wanna look like a psychopath on the forums? Hes a far right wing german. As someone born in London and lived in Europe for years these folks are the absolute worst. They're just as bad as MAGA
This always happens to an extent. The US military has ran into this, many of those that were overly aggressive and zealous were court martialed and severely punished, but not all of them. I think the level in Israel and Palestine is going to be light years worse because the Israeli's and Palestinians hate each other, and have gone out of the way to dehumanize each other. So it is a lot easier to justify extreme violence and harming civilians if you hate them. Make no mistake - the Palestinian soldiers would do the say, they did in October - and if the Palestinian had an actual military that could invade and occupy Israel, they would slaughter civilian like the IDF has..... war plus hatred plus dehumanization is a terrible cocktail.
Do you think they could have EVER won the "hearts and minds of its neighboring "Palestinians""? Many of the people who were murdered on 10/7 were volunteers who drove "Palestinians" to Israeli hospitals, who tried to give them jobs, etc. They got murdered anyway.
I agree with this. I also think the level of rage/hatred against the opposing population is probably far more intense on the Palestinian side. Which is not surprising, given the conditions they live in and the level of indoctrination they grow up with. In an alternative universe where they are able to occupy Israel with support from the US, the brutality against the Israeli population would probably be much more severe. But that’s never happening and should never happen.
Yes. They’re supposedly all Semites in the end. They all believe in the same God. They don’t eat Pork. They practice circumcision. As far as anyone can tell they all look similar too, just different skin tones.
Overheard in IDF war room after Call for Snap Elections: “He got me,” Bibi said of Gantz's rise in the polls over him. "That f***ing Benny boomed me." Bibi added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times.
Exactly what good did "being good" do here, the compassionate innocent Israelis that were mostly civilians got purposefully butchered by 3000 Hamas invaders, and now piece of chit @trustme is crying about 30,000 dead gazans that is cited without regard that 1/3 to maybe even close to a half are dead Hamas since the ministry of Gaza is Hamas and counts its own demonic terrorists among everyone else... the best thing the USA can do is coordinate the eradication of Hamas from Rafah / Hamas doesn't deserve to exist
Israel wasn't good before. They violated international law, passed water restrictions on Palestinians,. Israeli settlers have murdered Palestinian civilians and Palestinian police forces aren't allowed to arrest them. Israeli military ordinance ordered the destruction of any Palestinian owned businesses that could compete economically with Israeli ones. You might think that's good, compassionate, and innocent, but I doubt Palestinians see it that way. None of that excuses Oct. 7th or any terrorism against Israelis. But it isn't the best way to secure Israel or to build a workable peaceful co-existence. Palestinians have likewise committed acts that hamper the possibility of their security, peaceful co-existence. It isn't a situation where one side is innocent and one side is ferocious violent and aggressive. Neither side is innocent. What we do know is collective punishment disproportionate military actions, treating the Palestinians unjustly hasn't worked in making Israelis more secure. To continue indiscriminately killing the population isn't a situation that will breed security and peace.
