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War in The Middle East: Iran Edition

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Mar 12, 2022.

  1. basso

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    this may be fake, but vive le sentiment.
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    Trump doesn't consider it "losing" by tucking tail and running from NATO...

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/03/1...stonia-intelligence/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921
    Russia Is Rebuilding Its Military in Anticipation of Possible Future NATO War
    Almost 3 years in and the west doesn't have a defined win-condition other than taking everything back.

    Odd...
     
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  3. basso

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    It makes more sense if you read your own article?
     
  5. basso

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    it'd make more sense if you didn't blame Trump for The West's collective failure to form a coherent strategy in Ukraine.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Why not examine the west, and Trump's inability to work with allies and build a concensus?
     
  7. Ubiquitin

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    It would be a game changer. France is getting swept in its previous colonial playground by Russia, so France has every incentive to march into Moscow (again).
     
  8. basso

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    Trump has not been president for the past three years.
     
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    didn't work out so well for them last time.
     
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    Correct and now we have allies working together to form a unified front against Russia. Amazing how that works.
     
  11. Ubiquitin

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    C’est la vie
     
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  12. basso

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    tell me you don't know what we're discussing w/o telling me you don't know what we're discussing.
     
  13. basso

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    Guerra e Pace.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Oh, if only you weren't so "snidely sarcastic" Lol
     
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    France will just surrender
     
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    Can’t wait to hear from spaceghost how it’s Biden and the Democrats fault that France might go to war with Russia.
     
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    I also don’t really believe Macron that he’s possibly thinking about sending French troops into Ukraine. We’ll see in the coming weeks a bit more about what he’s trying to do in this next phase to support Ukraine.
     
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    If France or Germany or Poland want to send in troops, that is there choice.

    I have zero issue training Ukrainian troops, nor do I have a problem providing munitions for Ukraine… I don’t want US troops in Ukraine and certainly not in any war helping Israel on the ground.

    The dirty secret in military circles I have heard several times is that if things don’t settle down in the Middle East, we will be sending in troops in Iraq again.

    The US needs to work on building cultural influence and relations with Mexico - and other parts of the world. Short of Russia invading Poland or Finland or China attacking South Korea - we don’t need to be in an all out war.

    Also - if Ukraine does “win”, the West needs build up the defense of the border greatly, develop its military so that it can hopefully limit future invasions.
     
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    I wasn't blaming Trump for that, though his 4 years of handling Ukraine didn't help either. It's not like he forsaw a Great Power conflict that required reauthorizing the Defense Production Act to rebuild our military supply chains like what your link proposed.

    I'm dumping on him for making threats on the campaign trail for pulling out of NATO and allowing Putin a wedge that should not have otherwise existed.

    Everything he's proposed so far with Ukraine runs against your link but yeah I'm a meanie for hinting he's part of the problem...
     
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    Can we send the stop pop people to Ukraine so they can try to stop Russia tanks which use lots of oil by laying down in front of the tanks ?
    @ROXRAN
    @Salvy
    @basso

    This is a great idea , it might work

    tanks are bad for the environment
    Go wokes go stop them
     
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