February 29th slaughterhouse massacre, IDF shoots starving civillians by the hundreds

Israel has 2 million Arab Muslims with full citizenship rights.

How many Jews are there in Muslim majority countries with full citizenship rights?

 

Except that since the UAE and SA appear ready to make peace with Israel wouldn’t that mean that it’s not as simple as just Muslims hate Jews? let’s not forget also that the Palestinian authority recognized the existence of Israel.

The fact that the keeper of Islams most holy sites and the proponent of the most fundamental sect of Sunni Islam is willing to consider peace and recognition of Israel shows that this is not just about religion.

 

It's about religion, but fortunately, some members of the religion are becoming more moderate and pragmatic.

 

This. They had to avenge and address what happened on October 7 but it’s just gone too far.

 

Israel is using Oct 7th like Cheney used 9/11 - as an opportunity to implement a political agenda.

Israel will make Gaza uninhabitable and starve/murder/relocate them out of existence.

 

That would mean it isn’t all about religion.

 

So it's about religion, but those following religion can become more moderate and pragmatic. That aligns with history.

I would say that while religion is an undercurrent, it's not as much about religion as it is about territorial and nationalistic issues. Jews and Arabs have coexisted in various Middle Eastern regions, sharing cultural, economic, and social ties since the 7th century. The conflict between Jews and Arabs, particularly the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, is a recent historical development. The formation of the State of Israel changed the whole dynamic in the region. The territorial dispute was the reason for the 1948 war and remains the central issue in today's conflict.

The good news here (I'll take any) is that a territorial dispute is more solvable than religious ideology, hopefully.

 

Also the PLO is a secular organization with Christians in it. There were other organizations like Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine that carried out terrorist attacks against Israel that was headed by a Christian Palestinian.

Claiming that this is only because Islam compels Muslims to hate Jews dangerously simplifies the issue and avoids the many other issues of collective punishment, economic blockade, land and water rights.

 

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How mature.

 

I think you mean Yada Yada.

 

you are just parroting hamas propaganda

 

It’s just more sign that you’re unable to acknowledge any facts that don’t confirm
Your bias. Everything that does agree with you is “Leftists”, “woke” or “Hamas” propaganda. Frankly it’s attitudes like yours that make
It so difficult to come up with solutions to the problem.

 

"the many other issues of collective punishment, economic blockade, land and water rights."

Hamas lies you are parroting.

None of these lies justify rape and murder.

 

And do you deny that Israel has practiced collective punishment on the Palestinians, economically blockaded them, taken Palestinian land (in several cases even counter to Israeli law), and limited Palestinian water rights?

Also I’ve state several times that what Hamas did is an atrocity and even in this thread called them a death cult. In fact you’ve liked posts I’ve made stating that. Again that goes to your inability do deal with facts that don’t support your world view. You’ve willfully blinded yourself to construct a simplistic argument to avoid dealing with very difficult issues.

The really dangerous part is that your not alone and there are plenty of people on both sides of this issue who do the exact same.

 

These are all Hamas lies.

 

This is a scene from the TV show Babylon five that was in in the 90’s. This scene though was about a situation where one species (the Centauri) launched a brutal attack and occupation (the Narn). In response a Narn is torturing a Centauri leader for information to launch terrorist attacks back.

While this is a work of fiction it does speak to the situation we are in where there are many on both sides who just want to wipe the other side out. It also explains how the path of peace can be far more complicated and difficult than the path of war and annihilation. It was what the late Israeli Prime Minister Yithzak Rabin called the “peace of the brave” which cost him his life.

 

You’re making my point.