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The state of the republican party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    She's not white, doesn't Maga.

    That's enough get you under suspicion.


    You always wonder how the Stasi (pick a country, they all had one) and such, how these people did this to their fellow citizens and neighbors?

    It's exactly like this. It just takes a bunch of "true believers"
     
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    You're literally describing fascism
     
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    Kids growing up in a MAGA cult family are like those kids who grew up with parents who wore white hoods carried torches, and said, "We'll be back later kids, we are gonna go burn a cross in that filthy n*gger's yard."
     
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    It also takes a healthy degree of fear. Anne Applebaum wrote an excellent piece a few years ago that compared modern day Republicans with the East German apparatchiks who didn't believe, but who feared enough to go along with the state.

    I'd imagine that in certain areas of the country there's now a social cost to not being MAGA. Fear of ostracisation or condemnation is just as powerful for maintaining a coalition as true belief.
     
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  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Or Soviet totalitarianism...Stasi and all
     
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    Fear.

    Fear of everyone that is not your family. That's basically what it boiled down to.

    There was a great, great movie about the Stasi, East Germany in the 80's..."The Lives of Others"
     
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    there’s a reason Nikki Haley doesn’t go by her real name Nimarata Randhawa Haley

    she’d get ostracized from her party as a brown woman
     
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    One's an incel and the other's a fossil...doubt either are capable of that.
     
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    Mitt Romney spoke about this in his book and said he pays thousands daily to protect himself and his family from the threats that he gets from MAGA. He also mentioned that there are several other Republican senators who out of fear of their personal safety feel they can’t go against Trump.
     
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    Alarming and sickening.

    Rep. Greene speech, audience applause in Greenville were alarming

    The most impactful part of her speech was when she spoke of Ukraine and said that nobody outside of D.C. cares about it and couldn’t find it on a map. The audience rose to their feet, clapping.

    As people were clapping around me, I remembered where I was when I first heard about the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union, and yet here, in this room, most of the attendees, much older than me, must have a memory of that day, too. How could they possibly be applauding a KGB officer (Putin) from the 1980s who has stated it is his goal to rebuild the Soviet Bloc with Ukraine being phase one?

    And I wondered how anyone could not care about a Putin victory over a people who long to be free. Ukrainians don’t want to go back under that horrible tyranny!

    How did Republicans get aligned with Kremlin goals like this? Putin is likely thrilled with this America first language (as Hitler was in the 1940s) that we would step back and let him take over. It’s quite something.

    https://www.greenvilleonline.com/st...ience-applaud-rep-greenes-speech/72771763007/
     
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    So according to you, Reagan should have been harder on the border since interest rates were over 16%. The housing market was ****. Inflation was high. The things you mentioned were actually worse when your parents came over illegally.
     
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    The Democrats need to stop dicking around and playing nice...full scorched earth simply with the Trump/MAGA/GOP's own words. Fully spam the airwaives with truth...again "in their own words"
     
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    We don’t know what would’ve happened if Garland a vote because McConnell broke with tradition and didn’t even allow a vote in him while rushing through Barrett’s.

    McConnell must’ve not felt so confident that Garland was going to fail to win in the Senate otherwise he could’ve just gone ahead had heard and a vote and left it to the will of the Senate instead of the Majority leader.
     
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    I’m an architect who is working on a few housing projects right now and one of the reasons we have a housing crisis is because we aren’t building enough new housing. As labor is one of the main inputs in construction and we have a potential large pool of labor right there in all the people who want to come into our country.

    If you believe what you say above instead of just alarmist rhetoric about “criminal illegals!” You should be supporting legislation now that reforms our system, that can provide for more border security, more vetting while allowing more immigrants in and settled.

    There was a bill doing that very thing that has the support of a majority in Congress that the house leadership is holding up because it might help Biden politically. You’re basically admitting that above as you care more about getting at “the wokes” than you do solving the issue.
     
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    The country not only survived Reagan’s “amnesty” it benefitted from it.
     
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    He was protecting those who didn't want their no votes on record. But given how the Trump thrall will flip on Donny's beck and call (remember when Tea Party stood for national debt reduction?....they don't either), pouring over individual historical voting record has been thrown out in place of "conservative ratings". Those senators could've voted "no" nonstop for 1 1/2 years to elections and would've gotten away with it, much like how Collins still retained her seat despite broken promises.

    This was more like a favor to them by him taking the brunt of the "blame", but again more cons are vigilant and tribal for voting soley for SCROTUS seat than libs are. Many Libs will stay home for far less important things, which is why polling is roughy 50/50 despite the "numerical advantage".
     
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    I agree Republicans have been more successful than Democrats when voting over things like makeup of the USSC. That doesn’t change that McConnell not even giving Garland a hearing wasn’t damaging to the Senate and UsSC.

    The Constitution specifically says that the President nominates Justices and the Senate has advice and consent. The Constitution does grant the Senate the power to make its own rules but the intention there is that the Senate should act as a body and not just completely refuse to even consider a presidents nominee.
     
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    Damaging...yes. Especially with the 180 on ABC.

    Stolen...95% no.
     

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