I know. I wanted to point out that for os it is not a matter of posting good or bad. I never see him annoyed by obviously bad posters. Os gets the ignore for posting zero content, before getting to the hate part. I agree overall. I already have the bad posters on ignore, both from sof and soh crowd. The difference is most bad sof doesn't stick here, they storm the scene and usually leave fairly quickly. The anti sengun bad posters keep posting non-sense forever. I particularly agree with the last part. In my early days I was much more falling into the trap you described at the end.
Sengun is a "franchise build around player". His production is on a historic level for a 21 year old center, despite him not really having been featured. We just haven't built around him yet - at all.
I think if Sengun was black and his name was Anfernee Senjames the team would have no issues building around him and Stone would've already planned his extension.
Sheesh. So are you saying just Stone is a racist or Stone and Udoka or just the whole organization? It's a pretty wild thing to say. The format for building around anyone on a young team that sucks is pretty much the same. Acquire as many good picks as you can get and draft BPA. You have to get talent before you start worrying about fit. The rockets aren't any good because of a general lack of talent, similar level talent level players with a slant towards fit with Sengun may have resulted a few more 2023-24 wins but ultimately very little longterm value. I am curious to see what some consider building around Sengun that is better longterm than drafting BPA and stacking talent without shedding assets. Now, if the argument is we should have drafted other players with the power of 20/20 hindsight...sure.
High percentage three-point shooters who protect the ball and are decent or great defenders. And know when to cut, and are good at it. And who do not try to freeze out Sengun. Because Sengun will get his teammates many wide open looks. Reed Sheppard, Tyus Jones, Grayson Allen would be good examples. Jalen Green is literally the opposite of what the team needs. Terrible shooter, loses the ball a lot, freezes out Sengun, doesn't cut. I think Bari and Tari are a good fit. Amen is great except for 3-point shooting. Cam is great except for tunnel vision. I think Amen and Cam will be excellent if they are willing to accept Senhub. I hope we can lock up Adams long-term. Really like him. Another very tall bouncy shot blocker like Kessler would be good in addition.
ATW, love you man but stop fighting the wind mills. you are no Don Quixote! Sengun is gone...if not this year probably next year! If not Rockets will send him, Alpi will demand trade...it is what it is
People talk about Lakers type of destinations but an Eastern Conferece team is more possible. One of the obvious destination might be Chicago because of: -Nicola Vuc' contract and Alp's 5th year at Houston ends at the same time. -Alp's teammate OnurALP Bitim got a new contract and playing time in Bulls -Bulls has a reasonable fanbase in Turkey -Although Nets/NY/Celtics have more Turkish expatriate around, Chicago is also home to lots of them. LA is mainly for Armenians and Iranians -Not as huge as Istanbul but Chicago still is a big city. Offers something. -No seaside but lakes might offer something. Houston is likely is the first non-coastal city Alp ever lived. Giresun,Bandirma, Istanbul are all coastal places. As long as he does not go to b.... Knicks, good luck to him.
If they trade him I will still follow the Rockets but will not buy any tickets for a long time and will never eat at a Landry's owned restaurant chain again.
Sengun can’t be a free agent for like 5 more years, why anyone would worry he will leave at this point is idiotic
TL;DR (I wrote this last) To really simplify my point. If we use the Nuggets/Jokic as an analog - it's pointless to waste assets trying to get a KCP early on. You need to draft high level talent like Jamal Murray and MPJ first, guys that you can't acquire easily. It's amazing how being really good makes players seem to fit. That's what builds a great team. You typically only get those types of guys by getting lucky drafting BPA. Then when you have a proven good young core you can start risking assets to acquire other good guys (like Aaron Gordon). The 3andD types are important down the line but not foundational pieces. This sounds like really high level smart 3andD players. These guys are in high demand. The free agents will have their pick of the litter and will only sign with young losing teams if they get overpaid. Similar situation with FVV and Brooks. I really like Reed Sheppard, I hope we draft him. But, he'll also likely be BPA in our pick range. Tyus Jones and Grayson Allen are high level players and will be free agents. I'm sure the rockets org would love to have them. But, they will either sign with contenders or seek to be overpaid by losing teams. We won't have the cap space as we did last summer to sign them for what they would want from us. And, even if we could sign them, do you want to hamper development and playing time for Amen/Cam/Tari/24 pick(Sheppard?) for them? So, you're basically saying Bari/Tari/Amen/Cam are good fits. I actually don't think they fit the mold you described above. Both Bari and Tari are streaky rhythm shooters who are close to league average guys. Definitely not Tyus Jones or Grayson Allen type high percentage shooters at this point in their careers. Amen can't shoot and Cam can't defend. The 2 guys who most fit the mold you described are the 2 big free agents from last year, Brooks and FVV. Agreed, Jalen Green is terrible. But, obviously, when he was drafted scouts thought his potential was to do all the things you wanted and more. I don't think that has anything to do with fit. If he didn't suck and played to his potential he would fit in with Sengun perfectly. It was a bad roll of the dice. A good test of the BPA vs fit mindset would be if there was another high potential wing in the top of the draft (could be Devin Booker, could be complete bust) would you take him or Reed Sheppard ?
Fair enough, different mindsets I guess. Hitting on the scout perceived high case for a Jalen type prospect (Booker/Ant level) and pairing them with Alpi would completely change the trajectory of the team for a decade. Hitting on the scout perceived high case for Sheppard would help us win a few games but ultimately still be searching for another star. You're technically wrong. Sengun could take the qualifying offer at the end of his rookie contract and become an unrestricted free agent in 2026. But, i generally agree, Rockets shouldn't be afraid of Sengun leaving the team in free agency. It's highly unlikely and would be I'll advised.
Technically sure, but in real life it’s not possible no. He’s locked in at minimum for 7 years as are all draft picks
We would also need a ball handler who could create his own shot. The role Jalen was supposed to fill this season. A team with Sengun + 4 3&D guys would not work. Sengun won't be a Doncic or Bron kind of player.
