Season's Pretty Much Over - Thoughts moving forward?

Just wanted to mention that Chet is older than Sengun.

 

I made those numbers up…I have no clue what is so special about Jabari’s stats…What are these numbers he’s putting up that few his age have ever done?

Spurs have Wemby…Orlando’s guy has already made an ASG averaginf 23, 7, and 5 leading his team to the playoffs in year 2…J-Dub and Chet look special…our young core is just not measuring up…bunch of meh dudes or guys with massive flaws

 

by a whopping 2 months, with a year less of NBA experience

 

Both Paolo and Chet are a year older than Jabari. Jalen Williams is 2 years older in his third NBA season.

 

I thought you were talking about this...


But yeah hey a bunch of players were also drafted around Lebron where Lebron made them look bad at the time it didn't make them bad players. Just not everyone is going to be Wemby.

I agree those players are all better now I'm just saying if Jabari is 25 and a a first time All-NBA player I wouldn't be surprise.

Going to be a real important year for Bari next season, let's hope he takes a similar step Sengun took in his 3rd season and not the several steps back Jalen took.

 

Jalen Williams is in his 2nd season

a year older and significantly better with the same amount of NBA experience…that’s not the boon for Jabari y’all think it is

 

I think they are also in better positions. Playing with an MVP player makes everyone better, especially an MVP caliber PG like Shai. We know that just with Harden he was getting dudes paid and made them all look a little better than they were.

Not taking credit away from them but Jabari would probably be playing better on OKC too, he'd at least not have to watch his guard dribble around the perimeter only to drive into the lane and turn the ball over.

 

Yes, but Bari is another year younger. And Whitmore even younger.

And Jalen is dragging everyone down.

 

1st time seeing that…I just made up those numbers off the top of my head and assumed Rockets twitter would be parading that kind of stuff like they used to do for Jalen trying to shoehorn him in with the likes of Lebron, Luka, etc as the youngest to do X, Y, and Z…put enough arbitrary stats together and u can make a lot of young players look really good historically

Jabari is ok, just nothing too special so far…I’d be surprised if he became a legitimate star/top 20 player

 

I don’t even put Whitmore anywhere close to the type of prospect/player someone like Chet is so him being younger honestly makes no difference to me

Chet has elite attributes and is just a flat out better basketball player with better game than Jabari…so regardless of Jabari being a year younger, if Bari ever actually surpassed Chet, I would be very surprised

 

I share your frustration. Still think our guys can become very good.

 

I think Jalen looked good for his age too up until this year. I remember he had many games where he looked special and while he was a high volume scorer usually if you have a teenager scoring 17ppg in the NBA that usually, more times than not, indicates you have a special player on your hands.

I think we all thought his shooting would get better, its literally got worse year by year so....yeah.

I do agree Jabari right now is nothing special. Progression isn't always linear @daywalker02 wisely said, Jabari could also get worse for whatever reason or he could just...be what he is now for the rest of his career.

I'm just not willing to write him off. Hell, if Bari would just become the shooter he was advertised (knock down dead eye) he'd already be a lot better. I mean right now his shot is average, some nights above average, it don't help that if he goes 3/3 from three the team will then decide he's done enough shooting for the night and never find him again but yeah...if he just becomes that pure shooter and doesn't improve anything else he'd be an all-star player on that alone.

 

If you look at the rate of improvement year over year...you see who the real franchise player is.

An indication of what we might expect next year.

 

My mistake. His second season. But he IS 2 years older.

 

I agree with this, you can see who might get there by the improvements from year to year.

Jalen got worse each year...I think the guy doesn't mentally have IT to be an all-star player...hope to be wrong but I've given up.

Sengun took a large leap, Jabari took a good step...

I want to say Tari, he looked really improved but he hasn't even played so....

Obviously Cam and Amen are rookies so we'll see.

But usually you can look at players and see them get better each year.

 

u could say he looked good for his age, but putting a bunch of arbitrary stats together had Jalen on lists with Lebron and Luka and other stars

when it comes to Jabari, I’ve just never thought of him as that guy…I’ve always said he’ll be a very valuable big that any team would want to have

his shot has yet to live up to its pre-draft billing, but I do give him credit for at least improving his game…hard for me to see him embarrassing himself in year 3 like Jalen did

 

and miles ahead as a player while showing no signs of slowing down any time soon…he is basically 6MOY James Harden level

a guy who is hyper efficient and can do it all

forget Chet, I’d also be surprised if Jabari ever surpassed J-Dub as a player too regardless of the 2 year age difference

 

That's whats frustrating about Jalen and I think that's why the Rockets will be hesitant with moving him still. Because usually you have a player that young doing that, it means you have an all-star on your hands at least. It's almost tempting to just say this is just a bad year, he'll get it together, because I'm sure if you put together a list of teenage 18-19 years old that put up 15ppg or better on ANY % of shooting its a list of hall of fame players.

But if the guy is really complaining about his role here while he still gets to put up...what 20+ shots if he wants...then mentally I think he's just not it.

As for Jabari, I get that, but I could see it. If he becomes the shooter we imagined him to be that's already a huge leap. To shoot it at that size and be a plus perimeter defender that can switch onto 90% of players and play solid defense that's already an all-star player in todays game. If he then continues to improve his handle and slashing you're now talking about a guy that's going to cause a lot of problems for teams.

Either way, I don't think our core is bad. It's just Jalen. The rest of the guys are improving.

I'm not that worried about it, Thunder and Magic look like they have better under 25 prospects for sure right now but fortunes often change very quickly in the NBA. Sengun could take another step and become a true top player in the NBA next season, Jabari could take the same step Sengun does, and Rockets could add more depth to the team next season and we could look better. I think in our frustration we forget how good Sengun looked at the start of the year too.

I'm just not down on the future of this team I expected them to win 30 this year I guess and said this was going to be a frustrating season so I guess they are just doing what I expected.

 

1. But I do thing Jabari is special in that he has tools that is special especially Rebounding which comes easy to him. And why the Rox are so good at rebounding and 2nd chance pts.
2. Yep, shooting is not as special as scouts made it to be ---- he is a decent shooter though.
3. Defensive shows that he is good at switching and perimeter D but is not very adept at Paint Defense.
4. His weakside blocking abilities are limited.

 

Still feel very good about are core 6. Green leaves…..

Sengun
Smith
Eason/Cam
Amen/Sheppard
FVV/Amen