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Ime Udoka: "Chet Holmgren shouldn't be pushing guys around so easily"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 27, 2024.

  1. Haymitch

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    SGA really thrives playing in a 5 out offense. Chet is a big part of that. Not having a "true" C in there to fill the lane makes things easier for him. That's the main reason why they didn't add a center at the trade deadline.
     
  2. chenjy9

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    Yao did not come in built like a tank. We bulked him to bang more effectively in the paint and I believe that contributed significantly to his foot injuries later on.
     
  3. MrButtocks

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    Was Yao injury prone because he was thin or because he bulked up? How is that supposed to be proven either way? Sounds like people will always frame a situation to whatever suits their narrative. When Yao was young and playing 80 games per season it was because of his "tree trunk legs". And when that didn't hold up it was because he was a natural bean pole that bulked up to play inside. Giannis did the same thing? Well he's an exception, of course.

    I have yet to see any analysis proving thin players are more injury prone.
     
  4. chenjy9

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    Thin players aren’t injury prone. Tall, skinny players though can be more prone to wear and damage from large mass quickly shifting or impacting. The same players also often have to put on muscle mass though to prevent from getting pushed around and eventually you have more mass than your body was designed to carry. How Mobley and Chet handles that, we will see. Wemby already has a history with leg and knee injuries.
     
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    Yao was injury prone because China ran him into the ground with his obligations to the national team. He never got an offseason to recuperate.
     
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    Folks try to explain injuries as if it has a specific type. It doesn’t. Everyone is susceptible to being hurt at any time as an athlete. It doesn’t matter if you’re skinny, a tank, or in between.

    Injuries are part of being an athlete. That’s just reality
     
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  7. MrButtocks

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    Embiid, Oden, and Zion had serious leg injuries in college too. Bynum was 285lb and was done by 25. Donovan Clingan is one of the biggest centers in college right now, 265lbs, and also has foot injuries. I doubt you'd consider this any kind of trend. They just had bad luck. Thin skinny players that bulk up and get hurt? Of course it's because of their frame.
     
  8. Dobbizzle

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    Yeah I really do believe that too sadly. Big man never got a chance to let his body chill without all that stress on his limbs. Could've been even more special than he was, and I'll always believe that. The Unicorn before Unicorns.
     
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  9. glynch

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    Yeah we should go for upside if we are ever going to compete with those guys.
     
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    Well sure.... because OKC has a very good young core headlined by SGA.
     
  11. Newlin

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    Chet may be a skinny twig, but he’s fearless. He will go into the woods. Rockets need some bigs like that.
     
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    I don't think Sengun can get enough tan for him to admit that, if you know what I mean ;)

    He'd be sh*tting all over Chet if he was a Rocket too. BOFs can't help themselves.
     
  13. daywalker02

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    That dude was raised by wolves and bears.

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  14. AuburnRocket

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    There is an excellent article in the Houston Chronicle on Feb. 27th by Jonathan Feigen. He is the YOUNGEST player in NBA history to score 1500 pts.,1000 rebounds, 200-3 pt. made and 100 blocks. In the 12 games since returning from from missing 4 games with a sprained ankle, he produced at least 18 pts.in 5 games. He has had at least 10 rebounds in 5 of the last 7 games....averaging 10.7 rebounds per game. Houston is 7-3 when he scores 20 pts. or more.

    Despite your narrative that he is not an All Star (and he's not, says he's not but that's his goal), other than Sengun and possibly, not even excluding him, he has the best chance of being an All Star of our young core. Amen can't shot from outside, can't make FT (serious problem especially when game is on the line), Cam a 1st or 2nd option ? Really ? Not even close..can be maybe but not close now. Tari ? Great potential but, gotta be on the floor to make something happen. Sengun ? Great inside scorer, shoots a decent 3. Defense ? It's often times a matador defense...and, as much as I love him, it's painfully obvious as it's happening..which it does far too often.

    All of these are REALLY YOUNG with plenty of time to develop their games. I'm going to ask you a serious question....which member of our young core do you believe would have the greatest value in a trade ? Rank them ....trade value right now.

    7 of 16 shooting...one of them a 3/4 court heave at the end of the 3rd qtr. I know Bari is supposed to hit 60-70% of his shots...but 47% is really pretty good and take away that shot, that's what it is. The article further says he has shot 36.5% from 3 ...something the Rockets could use to help them. Yes, he was 1 of 6 last game but...he found other ways to score and made 6 baskets out of 10...I believe that's 60%. FT ? He's 80%...not 60%...he's not a liability at the FT line and we certainly have some who are.

    Finally, I'm going to ask you straight on....what evening of work would you consider a success for Bari that would make him a success in your eyes.You talk about a bar...what is that bar ? I'm afraid if poor Bari found a cure for cancer you'd say he robbed the grim Reaper.
     
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  15. daywalker02

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    Every one of the Paolo, Chet and Bari trio will be darn good but remains to be seen who will be the best...

    Better than Cade/Green/Mobley for sure.

    I am thinking that the difference would not be that great.........Paolo and Chet are flashier though.

     
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  16. AuburnRocket

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    Name this NBA player....1st season in 79 games, I shot 29% from 3 pt. (63/217) and 41.7% overall (622/1492)-432 rebounds
    2nd season in 80 games, I shot 35% from 3 pt. (108/308) and 47.2% overall (795/1684)-588 rebounds
    Career 34.7 % 3 pt. shooter

    Note : I have NEVER had a 27/7/7 game in my career. Career 73.5% FT shooter (top year 78%).
     

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