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Seriously, when can we end this JG experiment?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by zjcblord21, Feb 22, 2024.

  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    I think it is not the right time, Ime deserves a much better team and much better Front Office....

    I admit Udoka should do better on Offense but I do think he is the most competent among all the other guys like Stone....

    It is harder to get Daigneault or Mike Malone because those guys were fostered by an organization trusting them to build it from grounds up....

    The Heat would be a much worse team without Spoelstra as well.

     
  2. MrButtocks

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    If Ime didn't make any lineup changes after the all-star break he's not going to the rest of the way. Jalen will start for political reasons and to avoid bruising his ego, but Amen and Cam's minutes are creeping up. Hopefully, the JG saga ends this offseason via trade.
     
  3. YOLO

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    I wouldn't be so sure. I don't think Jalen's spot in the starting lineup is set in stone. They're willing to bench him in games. But they're only going to pull the plug once they accept JG isn't it. once they approach the 40 loss area, I think he gets benched for Cam or even Amen and then going into the summer we'll hear about JG trade options while the other young guys move up for that vacant spot

    I'll be very surprised to see him last the remaining 27 games with how abysmal he's been. At some point, you just have to accept he was a miss. the worst thing to do is double, triple, quad down. There's already enough sample size to make a decision
     
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  4. Verbal Christ

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    I guess I'd like to believe that moving in towards the elbows and free throw lines and creating open looks from those spots would lead to more makes. I have to remind myself that our team is also ranked 21 in free throw shooting so its somewhat of a catch 22. I always advocate for balance and not being a one dimensional team that is easy to defend. Everything is predicated on having competent shooting. Not sure how to fix that honestly and just using some basic logic that moving inside for easy makes would help out the confidence of the team vs starting games shooting 3's and planting the seeds of doubt from the get go. Leak outs. Fast break. Dump it into Sengun. Leak out. Fast break. Dump into Sengun KICK OUT for 3. Morph the pace according to the lineup. I almost forgot at the throwing darts version of playing time Udoka uses in determining his lineups from a game to game basis. Dude has no plan.
     
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  5. jim1961

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    This FO is determined not to be the folks that give up on Jalen Green too early.
    But they very well might be the folks that give up on him too late.

    Cant wait till the off-season where hopefully they fix this mess.
     
  6. NewAge

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    interesting.
    So Stone’s big off-season acquisitions were to add the second worst and the seventh worst volume shooters in the NBA to a roster that had the WORST and the fifth worst? I’m starting to have some doubts about the big-picture plans here…
     
  7. NewAge

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    Wow. I value +/- stats, they are the most important, but among the noisiest. I.e. high impact but low reliability…
    This LA-RAPM is apparently the most rigorous math model to squeeze the noise out of +/-

    Jalen being second-worst in the NBA matches the eye test: the guy just has this cancerous impact on the team. He doesn’t do any of the blue-collar work and demoralizes everyone. Silas’ 10-11 record without Jalen was not a fluke in light of that. Truly cancerous primadonna.
     
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  8. snowconeman22

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    #15 Jae'sean Tate

    I'm telling yall he still might be our best player

    We should be focusing on putting him in position to succeed and developing HIS growth.

    What a colossal miss from everyone involved
     
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  9. Crashlanded19

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    Jalen better be careful, he and Stone might be out of the league soon.
     
  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    tends to happen to GMs who draft busts in the top 3.


    Stone just stalling
     
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  11. napalm06

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    a-m-e-n brother.
     
  12. J Sizzle

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    Was obvious for a long time that he is not good.
     
  13. YOLO

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    #15 Jaesean Tate
    #57 Amen Thompson
    #92 Cam Whitmore
    #107 Fred Van Vleet
    #154 Aaron Holliday
    #198 Jock Landale
    #375 Tari Eason
    #419 Dillon Brooks
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    #540 Jalen Green
     
  15. napalm06

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    It's the very definition of sunk cost fallacy. A lot of fans are bitten by it too, with all young players.
     
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    clearly we should be building around Franchise Player™ Tate
     
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    I'm old enough to remember when people got SUPER upset when I said that Jalen Green's worst case scenario if he didn't improve was Corey Brewer.....well Brewer was a 13 year NBA vet, at this rate, I don't see Jalen Green being in the NBA that long....so maybe I was too generous.
     
  18. Os Trigonum

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    lol
     
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  19. topfive

    topfive CF OG

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    Don't kid yourself, there's always a market for high picks that didn't pan out on their first team. Usually, these guys haven't shown anything, but other teams see that JG has 30 career games with 30+ and 5 with 40+. Guys like Marvin Bagley, Anthony Bennett, Dragan Bender, etc. never had that much upside, the kind that makes GMs overlook glaring downsides.

    No matter how much CF has turned on him, Green is still worth a FRP, minimum. Especially if he finds his footing a little before the season ends. Somebody would definitely take a chance on him. My nightmare is that he goes to Golden State and suddenly corrects his mistakes.
     
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  20. topfive

    topfive CF OG

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    He only blew the #2 pick by keeping KPJ on the roster. That prevented him from being able to draft and sign Mobley.
     

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