Rumors: JG4 refusing to be sixth man and believing him not being properly used

Okay? I don't care. I didn't like Roosh before any of this happened. Nothing has changed. I just saw more behavior from him that showed me he's the same guy I thought he was.

 

I agree. Jalen shouldn't be so mentally weak to let what a nobody said on Twitter bother him.

 

The level of cringe he puts off on rocketswatch during the few times I have popped in to hear the discussion is off the charts.

 

People on this board has been talking about Jalen and 6th man as early as last year, long before this DM incident, before Ime got hired even.

Topic of 6th man was bought up in Rovketsphere, where Ime was asked to comment on it was because a reporter asked him in of the post game conference... which all Ime said he would consider it. He didn't say he'd change the starting lineup, just that he consider it.

Then during all star break, many people speculated as if it was a done deal. With Spolane's latest report, sounds like that's not the case. (for now)

 

From what, cosplaying as a former NBA player? Talking down to people because they don't know what it's really like to be out there face to face with Lebron James? Because they don't know the game is about a bucket?

 

I was watching a youtube slow motion video of Jalen's jump shot - and it is as broken as it looks in real time, but his functional basketball athleticism is off the charts - it is crazy how he gets to his spots, gathers, and rises up for a shot. His problem is that his form is atrocious with too much left to right motion with his right arm while he is trying to shoot the ball forward and up. Watch Stephen Curry's shot in slow motion and then watch Jalen's and see how little motion is in Steph's vs. Jalen's. The other problem is that he fades for no reason - and often fades left or right as well as backwards - which creates another variable to overcome when releasing his shot.

Jalen has changed his jump shot and it is still evolving. When he was younger, Jalen had a two step jump shot. First he would bring the ball up over his head in one motion, and then he would pause and then shoot from above his forehead in a second motion. To a certain extent, that release was simpler, but slower. Now he has a one motion jump shot and his release is around his nose/cheek. I think the change in form is one cause of his lower shooting percentage - hopefully it is one step back and then two steps forward down the road. I expect his jump shot to become respectable down the road. He shoots free throws at a high percentage. The release itself is okay. Just too much motion left to right and backwards and not enough reps on the new one step form.

 

You don't sound like an idiot to me for whatever that is worth--maybe nothing. Roosh could indeed be a jagoff. I just don't know much about him besides like the few times I've seen him on with Clutch or a random video here and there. I still don't have much of an opinion about him as a person or a basketball analyst.

Not ignoring the rest of your post, but I wanted to touch on the quoted point specifically because I've seen it mentioned a lot.

I feel like we do the same thing here on the message board. We criticize everyone from the owner down. We all can do a better job than Stone, We could have coached circles around Silas, We know what players need to add to their games and get better at, ect...We give opinions here all day and sometimes emphatically. I'm being sarcastic about the knowing more than the pros, but in a lot of cases some of this stuff is kind of obvious and collectively I think there are enough sharp people sharing ideas that we actually do come up with some good takes.

Personally, if Jalen were to see a post of mine here on the message board and feel the need to contact me about said message, I'm not going to b**** up and fanboy out. I'm not built like that and I would guess most non-feeble men aren't either. It's one thing if I go to a press conference or something and try to sneak some advice but from my understanding Roosh was just doing what we all do...Talking sports...Giving his opinions...And Jalen reached out to him to challenge something he didn't like. Roosh, like I'd expect many of us here, did not back down and told him live and in real time what his thoughts were.

 

So this falls either at the feet of the Rockets coaching staffs (past and present) for not properly getting Jalen where he needs to be, or at the feet of Jalen himself. Either they suck at coaching, or he's uncoachable. In reality, the fault lies somewhere in between.

It just sucks that this was our highest draft pick since Yao and we may not get anything out of it, long-term. In fact, this was one of our 6 highest picks in franchise history. The others:

Elvin #1
Rudy #2
Lucas #1
Ralph #1
Dream #1
Yao #1
Jalen Green #2

Now THAT stings.

 

I was just responding to the other posted who made the garnet comment. If Bari ends up as Aldrich like that is fine with me, although I think he has an opportunity to be better.

 

I think we need a Roosh Appreciation Thread

 

We appreciate Roosh helping to prove Jalen is as mentally weak as we thought he was.

 

I think we have to be concerned about giving up on Talent too soon
Many people are saying this is their 1st REAL COACHED Year
I have put my faith in IME
If he says give up on Green . . .well . . .I will allow it
but until then I'm good on giving him another year with Udoka

This isn't college. Udoka should not be playing for meaningless wins to secure his job
he should be building . . .I am trusting that process.

Love or Hate them . . . Harden, LeBron, KD, Curry, CP3, . . .those old guys stayed trying to improve
The young cats have to learn that . . . .

I don't necessarily need to see tape of their summer practices but I need to hear they doing it.
Giannis went to Hakeem . . . . Who is Green Going to? Jabari? Hell even AlP can improve

Rocket River

 

Exactly. My biggest concern right now is that we have two young players at the same position, and one of them seems to have the intangibles you look for in a star player. And Cam won't even be able to drink legally until NEXT summer. Jalen has a 2-year NBA head start and is lagging. Something has to give. I suspect that Udoka will continue starting Jalen since we have no realistic shot at the play-in anyway, and will find a way to give Cam roughly starter's minutes off the bench.

 

you’re only showing your intolerance. Just because a guy is a 35 yo white douchebag, who are you to say he can’t identify as a Big Black Baller?

 

interesting. so we only drafted #2 twice?
Yet at one point or another every other #2 pick in history was on our roster: Stevie, Stro Swift, Camby, Tyson Chandler, Thabeet, Beasley, ‘Dipo, …

 

We have historically been uber-aggressive in the recycled #2 market.

 

I know I shouldn't judge, but I'm going to, Jalen Green's dysphasia is as bad as his on court performance. To say "I'm not no 6th man", I mean, my 8 year old knows how improper that speech is and that it's a double negative making it a positive. I know it's the culture he grew up in to speak that way but with his terrible play he doesn't have any room to be making such arguments, and to do so as inarticulately as he has, just makes matters worse, especially from a fans perspective.

 

That is actually pretty sad for a young man to not being able to speak properly and clearly.

Actually worse if he can and still chose not to. Bad habit.

 

Always wanted Durant......

 

We do the same thing here for sure but I think it's still a bit different to try to coach an NBA player on the phone. Keep in mind Jalen did reach out to Roosh first, but Roosh is the one that suggested they talk on the phone to have a more productive conversation. And then once they were on the phone, Roosh is the one that started offering him unsolicited coaching advice. Roosh told him to go on his computer and watch youtube videos of Reggie Miller so he could learn how to play off the ball. I'm not saying I would do a 180 and fanboy out if I ever found myself in a similar situation, but I certainly would never do this.

And then on top of that, when Jalen went on his little 5 game hot streak, Roosh said he reached out to him and commented "I'm glad you did all the things we talked about, seems like it's working out for you." He tried to take credit for it! As if his coaching advice was the reason Jalen went on a tear. Give me a break. It's crazy narcissistic behavior.