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Brooklyn Picks -- Cash 'em in, or let 'em ride?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Houston77, Feb 10, 2023.

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Brooklyn Picks -- Cash them in, or let 'em ride?

  1. Cash 'em in

    85 vote(s)
    34.1%
  2. Let 'em ride

    164 vote(s)
    65.9%
  1. Aruba77

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    I think this is the most important question to answer heading into the draft. If you can get a Tari, Cam or Sengun out of the #8-10 picks, then you don’t want to trade the Brooklyn pick for anything less than a big time star. If not, then I think u aggressively shop this pick.
     
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  2. Corrosion

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    Markkanen is NOT a free agent after this year - he's under team control for one more season.
     
  3. Bearius Jones

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    2024 Top 1 pick: 9%
    2024 Top 4 pick: 40.2%
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    are the combined chances one of Brooklyn's and Houston's own 2024 picks. Keep the '24 picks and take the gamble to draft Alex Sarr.
     
  4. Corrosion

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    I really don't disagree with that idea. Of course you want to feel like the player you are picking is going to have an impact like those you listed ....

    Thing is, I think there's a couple players who fit the description.


    Top of my list is Reed Sheppard, best shooter in a long time and strong defender too. Shooting 52% from 3 on volume.

    Cody Williams is a jumbo wing that can score efficiently - .636 Ts% and is a plus defender.

    Kyle Filipowski ... 7 footer shooting 35% from distance and has the tools to be a plus defender.

    Rob Dillingham is a score first guard that can play on or off ball.
     
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  5. theDude

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    I think if you are going after either of them, you are going to have to give up both FVV and JG. Jalen being gone is where more minutes open up for the ascending Cam and Amen and the Mitchell or Young essentially takes over for FVV. For either of those guys, Id be willing to go FVV+JG+1st. I doubt that gets it done, but don't know that I'd go any higher.

    But more than focusing on those specific guys, I am wondering which teams we should be watching in the offseason. Who do you think may be in rebuild mode if their playoffs fizzle that we could be predatory with, and what assets would you be willing to part with to do it?
     
  6. OremLK

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    I think the guys going on the top 5 in this draft would probably go in the 6-15 range in the previous class. Amen and Ausar might well have gone #1 and #2 overall if they had waited, for example.

    For me, if we land outside the top 7 or so I'm definitely looking to move the pick for whatever good young player I can get (in combination with other assets). If we land in the top 4, I would probably keep it unless we can get a legitimate young star, which currently doesn't appear to be available this offseason, but who knows what might happen.
     
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  7. BallSoHarden

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    If I am the grizzles I would maybe look to move Ja. Not just the drama that occurred in the past, but more so because I would have concerns about him staying healthy. He has been taken out of meaningful playoff runs with major knee injuries, and now hes out for season for a shoulder. He has a fairly thin frame and likes to drive a lot, just reminds me of a skinnier D Rose. It would be worth it for another team to try their luck with him, new environment it may be that Memphis is not the right place for him to be.

    Donovan or Trey would have to want out and request Houston for that to gain traction. I don't see the Hawks willingly give up on Trey.
     
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  8. YOLO

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    No it isn’t. Definitely not overplayed because it’s actually true. It’s extremely weak relative to high talent. If you’re looking for potential role players and bench guys and that’s what you hope to get sure this is probably a draft to find some. But draft year wise it means it’s very weak. And if you have a high draft pick in this draft and your team isn’t any good, you wasted a year
     
  9. peleincubus

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    Nets down by 50….
     
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  10. Commodore

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    • odds of getting one top 4 pick in 2024: 36.5%
    • odds of getting two top 4 picks in 2024: 3.6%
     
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  11. peleincubus

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    from what i see it's 40.2% right now to get one top 4 pick.
     
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  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Picks are worthless, we need NBA players we have enough developing folks.

    DD
     
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  13. robbie380

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    Having top picks will definitely help with acquiring a top tier NBA player
     
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  14. peleincubus

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    Who gives a F*CK DD?????

    for one a pick can be traded. a higher one is more value which is why the above % is relevant.

    and two. you said this same comment about 500 million F*ckinggggg times this last offseason. Now you won't STFU about Whitmore.

    i don't need your broken record opinion on draft picks for the next 4 months. if you can't help yourself dont quote me about it.
     
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  15. Commodore

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    you cant just add the two teams odds to each other

    Inclusion-Exclusion Rule: The probability of either A or B (or both) occurring is P(A U B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(AB)
     
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  16. peleincubus

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    you would think i would have realized that considering I have been looking at z charts and Stddev etc today. stats & fin is gonna kill me these next few months.
     
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  17. Bo6

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    Brooklyn only 2 games back of the 7th spot which would mean a 37.2% chance of top 4 selection.

    Combined with our pick of landing withing 13.9% (and rising) and you're looking at pretty good odds of having another nice draft... despite it being a weaker class.
     
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  18. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol….
     
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  19. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    If the Rockets go after Young or Mitchell, I don't think FVV will be part of the deal as the Rockets are trying to win and would deal draft capital and Green along with expiring contracts. Let's just say it is Green, Landale, other Green, Tate, 4 FRPs, and 3 swaps (could argue it is slightly less draft capital).

    That would leave the following SL and backups:
    Sengun
    Smith or Tari
    Cam or Brooks (possibly Tari)
    Amen
    Trae Young

    Adams
    Smith or Tari
    Cam or Brooks
    FVV

    Rockets would also have whoever was picked with the 2024 BKN pick. FVV if he was dealt would likely be a separate deal.
     
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  20. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    Yep. Cam Whitmore is worthless. Amen Thompson is worthless.

    I'm all for getting a star if available, but without that, keep the picks. The Rockets have enough non-stars. Guys don't fit yet, but I wouldn't trade for more non-stars just so they fit the current roster when we don't know who the stars (maybe guys on team, maybe not) will be and don't know if they will fit with them.

    There is so much talk about core, but the Rockets, besides for Sengun, don't know who the core is.
     
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