Nice try, the guy you are white knighting is regarded pretty widely as a murderous, genocidal pig. He tried to consolidate power and undermine the democratic system (if you want to call it that in Israel). He’s not liked even by his people but for some reason you have some crazy love for one of the most evil men today. if you have to compare him to an evil organization like hamas that should tell you everything. If you have more to argue perhaps look at the clear as day arguments made by the ICJ (yes I know you’re going to ignore anything that’s factual here) fully outlining how this evil genocidal pig and his cabinet of known terrorists (Ben Gvir) are delighting in the blood of dead babies and children on a daily basis post all the tweets you want, you’ll notice that 90+ % of the world doesn’t buy that bullshit. In fact it’s had the opposite effect, I stopped clicking on the links after so many of the lies were exposed earlier. Prior to this myself and many folks believed some of that crap Hamas is evil , but so is Bibi so stop ****ing defending him. You’re a smart guy so acknowledge your own bias here. Hamas can be evil and so can Bibi
@AroundTheWorld Bibi is an evil man regardless of one or one million more cartoons posted here his best friends Hamas who he helped finance are just as happy with his clinging to power
The narrative that Bibi "created Hamas" is another antisemitic classic going around in Muslim and leftist circles.
What do you call the world stage? That’s fine, back to cartoons and links nobody will click on. The irony is I was far more behind supporting some of that stuff before it became so batshit insane Unfortunately for Bibi and his evil regime, people have a moral compass
https://www.jns.org/the-myth-that-israel-netanyahu-created-funded-hamas/ Since these false claims that Israel created Hamas or that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu supported Hamas are circulating across social media, let’s address them. Hamas is an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood, an organization founded in Egypt in the 1920s, before the rebirth of the State of Israel, but which now has a presence in Israel and in much of the world. In its early days it coordinated with the Nazis and received support from Nazi Germany. The Gaza Strip used to be ruled by Egypt, which helps explain the strength of Hamas in the area. The Muslim Brotherhood operates in the United States and Europe under different names and front groups, such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations. It also has terrorist organizations, including arguably Al Qaeda, whose leaders have mostly been MB members, and which after Bin Laden was run by members of an Egyptian MB splinter group. The Muslim Brotherhood operates under various identities inside Israel. There are two branches of the Islamic Movement, one of which has seats in the Knesset. Hamas initially resembled them, focusing on religion, social work and non-violent politics, before it gained strength and revealed its real true agenda. This is how the Muslim Brotherhood tends to operate. It pretends to be political and non-violent until it can seize power. The Israelis, like the Americans and Europeans, were initially fooled by Hamas and viewed it as western governments tend to see Muslim Brotherhood organizations in their own countries, as religious and political, but not terrorist. That obviously changed. When the Bush administration pushed elections in the Palestinian Authority as part of its democracy agenda, Hamas easily won them. The Palestinian Authority then ended any future elections to avoid losing them to Hamas. Hamas fought the P.A. (Fatah/PLO/P.A. are all basically the same thing) and won in Gaza. While Israel closed its border with Gaza, Hamas had plenty of support from Muslim Brotherhood organizations around the world (and during the Obama Arab Spring, the Muslim Brotherhood temporarily took over Egypt) and from terror state sponsors like Iran and Qatar. Under Obama, Hamas attacks and Israeli responses tended to end in “truces” negotiated by Egypt. In these truces, Israel would trade some benefits for an end to the violence. Social media has passed around a claim taken from an article in the ultra-left Haaretz about Netanyahu funding Hamas. Here’s the actual context, also from Haaretz, about that funding. “In recent months, Israel has quietly provided some relief as part of an unofficial, Egyptian-brokered truce with Hamas, in exchange for reduced rocket fire from the territory and the scaling back of weekly protests along the border. It has allowed Qatar to deliver millions of dollars in cash to allow Hamas to pay its civil servants and has allowed the United Nations to step up aid efforts.” Netanyahu allowed Qatar to bring cash to Hamas in exchange for an end to the violence. A quote circulating on social media about Netanyahu and Hamas comes from a Haaretz hit piece on Netanyahu. “’Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,’ he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. ‘This is part of our strategy—to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.’” The actual source is supposedly the biography of Haim Ramon, who had not served in the government since 2009, and certainly not in the Likud. Ramon, a leftist politician, had been convicted of sexual harassment, partially ending his political career. He certainly had not been a Likud member and was not attending any such meetings, raising serious credibility issues regarding the quote. But the Qatar deal was certainly unpopular in the conservative Likud Party, and it’s not impossible that Netanyahu might have tried to rationalize it to right-wing members in those terms. That’s not, however, why the deal was made. It was made to stop Hamas attacks on some of the same communities now under attack. Haaretz’s elite defense editor, Amos Harel, wrote a defense of the deal when it was made, titled, “Images of Qatari Cash Flowing Into Gaza May Embarrass Netanyahu—but Alternative Is War” He argued that “continued pressure on the Strip will lead to an explosion, which in turn will lead to an Israeli ground operation in Gaza, heavy casualties followed by desperate negotiations over who will assume responsibility for Gaza’s population—or in other words, a return to square one. And if Israel has nothing to gain by invading Gaza, it ought to try any other possible solution before going to war…. “Thursday’s cash transfer produced a relatively quiet weekend, the second in a row. Friday morning, Hamas was busy distributing the cash to 27,000 civil servants and some 50,000 families defined as needy. In the afternoon, its security forces generally prevented large numbers of people from nearing the border fence during the weekly demonstrations…. “Over the summer, when incendiary balloon launchings were at their height—a threat played up by the media and on social media—Netanyahu was nearly dragged into a war he didn’t want and which the military forcefully advised against. The steps that will soon be approved to ease Gaza’s distress could have been taken much earlier, thereby reducing the damage on all sides.” The Haaretz hit piece on Netanyahu is hypocritical because the paper supported the policy. The policy was terrible. I argued against it. So did anyone seriously concerned about fighting Islamic terrorism. The problem with it was not that Netanyahu was hawkish, but that he was too liberal and prone to giving in to pressure. Buying calm from Hamas did the opposite. But the truces pushed by Obama had made that the default plan. Israel, however, was not financing Hamas. It was letting Qatar move money in. As outrageous as that was, it was part of the same system that had Israel providing water and power to Gaza. And the entire agreement in which Israel regularly transfers money and provides services to the P.A., which is no better than Hamas. The Oslo Accords were essentially a deal in which Israel provided terrorists with territory and money in exchange for peace. That agreement, like all subsequent ones, failed. As they always will. This was the policy of the Clinton administration which pushed the Oslo Accords. Nearly every administration since has pushed Israel to make concessions in exchange for peace. Biden’s visit to Israel climaxed with more of the same, with Israel being forced to once again provide services to the Hamas territory. That’s the context. Israel is stuck with an Islamic terrorist problem. Like most countries, it unfortunately alternates between fighting them and trying to appease them. But the appeasement never works. War always follows. The only way to deal with terrorists is to destroy them. Anything else is appeasement, which leads to compromises like these, that seek to avoid war, but bring on war anyway.
No it has been published ad nauseum in the times of Israel and other verified sources. You simply turn anything that defeats your narrative as made up. The only thing made up are those r****ded cartoons and Twitter links I don’t click on You would have an easier time defending Mao I respect you but we are not going to agree here (the majority of the world doesn’t FYI)
Read the article I posted above your post. It's THE OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK to blame Jews for getting murdered. The Nazis did the same.
Who is blaming the Jews? It sounds like you’re blaming the Jewish** sources that published this. The links go to the Mossad verifying this. blaming this on innocent Jewish Israelis is antisemitic on your part.
@AroundTheWorld what do you have against the Jewish writer, the Jewish publication and the hundreds of thousands of Jews that are criticizing an evil man? (no im not calling you antisemitic but you get my point lol) https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-y...d-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/ or years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from By TAL SCHNEIDER 8 October 2023, 3:58 pm Gazans celebrate by a destroyed Israeli tank at the broken Israel-Gaza border fence, east of Khan Younis, October 7, 2023. (AP Photo/Yousef Masoud) "); background-color: rgb(50, 82, 159); width: 30px; height: 30px; overflow: hidden !important;"> "); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); width: 30px; height: 30px; overflow: hidden !important;"> "); background-color: rgb(204, 39, 41); width: 30px; height: 30px; overflow: hidden !important;"> "); background-color: rgb(37, 211, 102); width: 30px; height: 30px; overflow: hidden !important;"> For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group. The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state. ADVERTISEMENT Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad. Hamas was also included in discussions about increasing the number of work permits Israel granted to Gazan laborers, which kept money flowing into Gaza, meaning food for families and the ability to purchase basic products.
I have nothing against her. I think that it's good that there is dissent in a democracy. You know, that wouldn't be possible in most Islamic theocracies. If you read the article correctly, they are criticizing Netanyahu for having been TOO SOFT on Hamas. The article I posted - which you haven't read, I assume - addresses the fact that Netanyahu allowed Qatar to funnel money into Gaza's government (Hamas). Israel is stuck with an Islamic terrorist problem. Like most countries, it unfortunately alternates between fighting them and trying to appease them. But the appeasement never works. War always follows. The only way to deal with terrorists is to destroy them. Anything else is appeasement, which leads to compromises like these, that seek to avoid war, but bring on war anyway.
This is speculation and asks of us to believe Bibi’s intentions are what he claims them to be (now) the buck stops with him, that’s how leadership and being the top dog is (as a business leader yourself I’m sure you understand) being results oriented he facilitated them regardless of whatever his believed* intentions this article outlines
I don’t doubt this, there is* the problem you allude to that is Muslim extremism. 100% But there is also a problem within likud, the same party that charters from the river to the sea there is also the problem of the Muslim extremism and terrorist breeding ground that Bibis massacre will lead to. As per the US military itself saying, any immediate results will be outdone by the generations of hatred this will breed. And we can’t say all of it is “just a terrorism problem” the parents with dead children and children with dead parents will hate regardless of religion. As an American the world stage and my country has been made less safe by this likud POS
P.S.: I also don't know enough about Israeli internal politics to take a side between Netanyahu or his political opponents. Most Israelis I know didn't like him before October 7, except for his biographer, whom I met (he is also a healthcare CEO). I cannot comment on claims of corruption or anything - his attempted judicial reform seemed dodgy. But he is an experienced leader who was faced with the most existential crisis the Jewish people have faced since the holocaust. The only way he or any other good leader could have reacted is by eliminating the existential threat that is facing them right in their backyard. That threat is Hamas. Hamas must be eradicated. Hamas are the ones hiding behind civilians, behind children, in hospitals, in mosques - they are the ones who use ambulances to transport weapons - it is impossible to fight someone like that and not become subject to propaganda like the one you are spreading. The difference is that Israel does not TARGET civilians. Hamas hides behind them. If a murderer who just raped and murdered your relative is pointing a gun at you, while hiding behind his child, if you want to live and you also have a gun, you literally have no other choice than to fire back. That's the situation Israel is facing here.
I read the piece and while it offers a defense of Netanyahu it doesn’t rule out that Netanyahu very might’ve made that statement. From the piece: “But the Qatar deal was certainly unpopular in the conservative Likud Party, and it’s not impossible that Netanyahu might have tried to rationalize it to right-wing members in those terms.” For the record I don’t believe Netanyahu created Hamas but he does appear willing to help them at times. Maybe it was appeasement but it also did serve the wider aim of keeping the Palestinians divided. The author of the piece makes it seem like the Oslo accords were made with Hamas. They were made with the PLO / Fatah who are now the Palestinian authority, which is internationally recognized and has officially recognized the existence of Israel. While the PA has been far from perfect Israel has undermined them and even punished them for actions by Hamas. That policy has effective prevented a moderate Palestinian government.
