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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. Amiga

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    Politically, it's a mess for Republicans. They wanted this bill. They demanded immigration reform or else they wouldn't fund Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan. 'Unless we take care of our own crisis at the border, we won't fund anyone else' was the message from Republicans.

    Trump directed them to kill it and now both the House and Senate Republican leadership have abided. Now they are doing a 180, killing the immigration bill and trying to separate funding into their own bills - essentially back to where we were last November, 4 months ago. The spinning necessary is dizzying. As the WSJ editorial board said, it's likely going to backfire on Republicans.
     
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  2. NewRoxFan

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    I bet some republican senators start trying to push for funding for Israel and even Ukraine. Maybe even a new border proposal. Won't get any.
     
  3. basso

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    MAGA is to the left as Woke is to the right.
     
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  4. tinman

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    We are independent thinkers and center
    center like Olajuwon

    all these people who are beefing with you are Lin fans , you can look up their prior GARM statements
    @J.R.
     
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  5. Amiga

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    already saying that
     
  6. astros123

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    Doesn't matter. Johnson will not take up ukraine aid in house
     
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  7. Amiga

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    will Not
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    Except... maga is the trump campaign slogan. trump literally concludes most of his tweets with "maga".
     
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    @Astrodome this is what politics has come to. Sad we can't solve basic issues in this country no more. Useless
     
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    Elvin, Moses, Ralph, Yao, Al P.
     
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    When I see him always end his tweet with that, in my head I see this


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  13. NewRoxFan

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    Not all laws are actually criminal. If they were people would drive a lot slower. Hell is illegal to leave your trash can out in many localities.

    I want more legal immigrants. Why don't you be honest and say you don't want more legal immigrants?
     
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  16. Astrodome

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    If Biden gets pissed and shuts the border down, I may switch to dem.
     
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    I want more immigrants to be legal. it's not the same.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    The whole point of this is that even if Biden wanted to he can’t shut the border down without a change to the laws and funding.
     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    Appears this maga wanted to take matters into his own hands...

    Tennessee Militia Member Planned to Attack US Border Agents, Feds Say
    Federal investigators say a Tennessee man who said the U.S. “is being invaded” planned to travel to the southern border with a stockpile of weapons
    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...r-planned-to-attack-us-border-agents-feds-say
     
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    House GOP fails to impeach Mayorkas over border handling

    House Republicans’ high-stakes gamble to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas unraveled on Tuesday, an embarrassing political setback for an already embattled majority.

    The articles of impeachment against the Homeland Security secretary failed in an 214-216 vote after four Republicans sided with Democrats to oppose recommending Mayorkas be booted from office. It's yet another instance of a GOP effort falling victim to the party’s narrow House majority, and the failure will likely pour new fuel on conservatives’ simmering frustrations.

    The high-profile defeat solidified Tuesday night, as Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.) joined other known Republican "no" votes and Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) was the only member absent. Johnson had pushed ahead with the effort and predicted to reporters hours earlier that he believed they would have the votes, even as he faced growing skepticism from within own ranks and multiple holdouts refused to sign on.

    Republicans have been building their case to impeach Mayorkas for months, advancing articles last week that accused him of breach of public trust and refusing to comply with the law. If they’d been successful, it would’ve been the first impeachment of a Cabinet official since 1876.

    Mayorkas dismissed the charges in a recent letter, calling them “false,” “baseless” and “inaccurate.” Even some GOP-allied constitutional experts have publicly warned that House Republicans’ accusations don’t meet the bar for impeachment.

    The public setback on the House floor underscores the deep divisions within the conference, exacerbated by their thin majority. With full attendance, Republicans could only afford to lose three votes, and absences on both sides injected an extra dose of last-minute uncertainty into the outcome.

    GOP leadership pushed ahead with the vote anyway, effectively forcing their on-the-fence into a decision that could expose them to political attacks either way. Asked why they were still pursuing the vote earlier Tuesday, Homeland Security Committee Chair Mark Green (R-Tenn.) — who led the effort — said: “We have exhausted all other options.”

    Tuesday’s failure also raises fresh questions about whether Republicans can take on their bigger impeachment goal: President Joe Biden. There were multiple signs of trouble heading into the Mayorkas vote that could be relevant for any effort against Biden as well.

    Buck and McClintock have been signaling for weeks that they were not sold on impeaching Mayorkas, concerned that the GOP charges didn’t reach the bar of a high crime or misdemeanor as outlined in the Constitution. Buck made his opposition official late last week, while McClintock came out as a “no” on Tuesday morning. Buck has also been critical of the effort to impeach Biden.

    McClintock’s opposition sparked pushback from conservatives, who have been eager to see House Republicans try to boot someone from office, after former President Donald Trump was twice impeached (though ultimately acquitted by the Senate).

    “Clearly he’s not paying attention to the American people. He’s failing his oath office. I would say he needs to grow some courage,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) said of McClintock. “The American people are fed up.”

    Then there were the holdouts. Reps. David Joyce (R-Ohio), Maria Salazar (R-Fla.) and Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) each declined on Tuesday to say how they would vote. Meanwhile, Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.) argued during Tuesday’s closed-door GOP conference meeting that the Mayorkas impeachment effort hadn’t met the constitutional bar for impeachment, according to four Republicans in the meeting.

    And even Republican lawmakers acknowledged, as leadership kept the vote on the schedule, that they were basically waiting to see in real time if they would be able to impeach Mayorkas.

    https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/02/06/congress/mayorkas-impeachment-fails-00139994
     

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