What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?

VW/Porsche joined NACS a couple of months ago from what I recall.

 

Apple knobs + Tesla stans, what could possibly go wrong?

 

Oh snap. I missed that news
You are right.

https://media.vw.com/en-us/releases/1774

• Future Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche and Scout electric vehicles to use the North American Charging Standard (NACS) charging port, starting in 2025
• Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi are exploring adapter solutions for existing vehicles to access the Tesla Supercharger network, starting in 2025

 

So I finally went today and took a Porsche Taycan 4S Cross Turismo for a test drive, as well as a Cayenne Hybrid Turbo S.

Both are nice cars, and I usually like sitting a bit higher, so that would speak in favour of the SUV.

I drove there in my Tesla Model Y Performance, and it was a bit odd to drive a Porsche that accelerates a little less fast than the Tesla.

The Cayenne did have ipad-like screens on the back of the front seats, which my children would have of course loved...

In the end, I decided that I do want to stay fully electric, but that I do want the fastest option available. So I went ahead and called a Porsche Dealer in LA that had the exact configuration I wanted in a used car - Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo Turbo S, exactly the colours I wanted, and only two years old...got it for like 80k less than the original MSRP. Fewer than 10k miles on the car, 2 years old. Certified, clean carfax, etc. They will arrange for it to be shipped across the country.

 

lol

 

Lmao. Meanwhile idiots on 610 can’t move over from the left. MY TAXES MY LANE. Ignorant mofos

 

I hope people buy these. Or else Toyota with their hybrid strategy is going to be laughing all the way to the bank.

 

And how many of those are "non-premium" EVs? Most of those are going to be overpriced, premium EV's from the looks of it. And some of the non-premium EVs aren't ones the average person or family are going to necessarily buy like Brightdrop, VinFast, $70,000 electric pickups and Jeeps.

They need to start bringing out more stuff closer to $25-$35k to stoke demand (maybe).

 

Average new car price is over 48K. at these interest rates....how are people affording these cars??

there's such a disconnect now between what the buyers are looking for vs. what the govt wants you to buy vs. what manufacturers are making..

 

New HD diesel is about $75K, which is absolutely ridiculous for a pickup

 

I wonder what the median price for cars is?

 

30?

 

I was incorrect...85K pickup

https://www.chevrolet.com/trucks/silverado/3500hd/build-and-price/summary

 

Yeah, I'm not sure, but I'm guessing it's probably $30-$40k, but I could be wrong. And that's just new cars, not used ones. Even a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry starts at $26-28k and up to around $38k for their highest trims (not including any upgrades) before any negotiation that may or may not bring prices down.

A lot of people are buying used cars not wanting to have to spend the money for new, so a lot of these new EV's are non-starters for them even before you start the ICE vs EV or whatever else debates.

 

They aren't.

The AVERAGE age of a passenger car in the USA on the road is 12.5 years.

 

congrats. The Taycans got a big range upgrade too.

We might make the jump as well

 

I think the big range upgrade was for the 2025 models.

 

You are correct :/

 

which part of "saving earth" plan is this?

 

Damn, the Model S Plaid accelerates even faster, and costs half as much...did I make a mistake?