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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    In both the short term and the longer term, the trend is that we need more low-wage workers, as established Americans seek higher wages. But this needs to happen within legal frameworks. I would love it if the bipartisan bill directly addressed this concern, but one of its components is to expedite work permits for those permitted to stay. That makes sense – if individuals are here, allowing them to work can reduce reliance on state and federal support. This should also contribute to legitimizing the low-wage workforce, which has been a de facto presence for decades, but many of whom were without proper work permits.
     
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    Those suckers are low iq MAGA boomers @basso

    This perfectly illustrates why these right wingers are dumber than dirt. They complain about something but legislation is brought up to eliminate the problem they suggested they want no part and pivot to something else.

    Utter morons. The senate bill will ban catch and release
     
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    I don't get angry often about things out of my control but seeing those cops get beat in NY by illegal immigrants just pisses me the **** off. We're kind enough to shelter you, provide food, allow your anchor babies to be born here, and this is the thanks we get? As a middle class earning tax paying citizen I want real solutions to the problem at hand...
     
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    I agree that those people who beat the NYPD shouldn't have been let go and should be still sitting in jail. Their immigration status isn't what bothers me. I said the same things about people who assaulted LEO during the George Floyd protests and on Jan. 6.
     
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    It should, cities and states are being overwhelmed by their presence and something needs to be done about it. It's pretty much the only GOP stance I agree with even though I understand Texas is in the midst of the usual political propaganda there is some truth within it.
     
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    What does his imagination status have to do with him being released after he was a violent suspect again. Your issue should he with new Yorks cashless bond system which is abused by judges. Not sure what his immigration status has to do with the bad judge that let him off
     
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    Deport these illegal immigrants and send the judges who let them out with them...

     
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    I just read about it.

    This highlights an issue with our broken immigration system. You are ineligible for asylum for something as simple as theft. If you were granted asylum, you can lose it if you commit a serious crime (and this is a serious crime). In an efficiently working immigration system, cases like this are quickly processed and deported if they are found guilty of the crime. I read that one of them was arrested before for theft and assault - they should have already been processed and deported if found guilty. There are not enough immigration judges to handle cases, and these people might linger in the system for months to years before eventually being denied asylum and deported.

    With that said, every group has its bad apples. The vast majority of asylum seekers aren't criminals.
     
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    This is a problem not that they are inherently illegal as immigration status is a bureaucratic definition. We have plenty of US citizens that commit violent crimes.

    It’s a problem of too many people coming too fast without having proper systems to deal with them. It’s no different than when a lot of people from NOLA during Katrina were sent to the Astrodome without proper resources to deal with them.
     
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    these dudes are on their way to California now

    Migrants take bus to California after arrest for beating NYPD cops outside Times Square shelter: sources

    https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/02...ypd-cops-times-square-shelter-bus-california/

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    Amazes me when I see such false information spouted by people in our government...



    Readers added context they thought people might want to know
    This is false. All the 9/11 hijackers arrived legally. The US 9/11 Commission plainly stated this as well. And of the 19 hijackers, four were in the US beyond their visa expiry date i.e. an overstayed visa but even that isn't immediate grounds for removal. govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CH… govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911… factcheck.org/2013/05/911-hi… gao.gov/new.items/d114… travel.state.gov/content/travel…
     
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    Their immigration status allows them to commit that crime then return to their federally sponsored home. If this was a homeless American, they would be back at the train station or central park.
     
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    Why is homey so mad? He didn't say that they actually recieve SS. His outrage is click bait.
     
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