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Ime Udoka after Valanciunas, Pelicans beat Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 31, 2024.

  1. Clutch

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    Focused on how guys missed shots early and didn't play with energy after that.

     
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    I thought we played okay, not great, for most of the game--then we shat the bed late and that's all she wrote

    Fred, Alpi, and Jabari were way off, missing shots they normally make.

    Jalen was playing great, but in a way that reinforced how the half-court offense tends to stagnate when he plays the style of game that suits him best. Kinda starting to agree with @Hemingway that he fits better with a run-and-gun bench unit including Amen, Tari, and Cam. A great catch-and-shoot roleplayer like Kennard would fit better with our slow-paced, grinding starters group.
     
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    Why is the volume so low?

    This team needs 3pt shooters and a backup C

    Why do we have Boban and Landale if they arent gonna play on nights like this? Give it a try, whats the worst thing that could happen? They make some bad plays take them out atleast u tried.. Jeff Green hasnt given us anything for months now it feels like. Aaron Holiday should not be playing heavy minutes.

    Udoka is sometimes too stubborn with some **** man I dont like it.
     
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    FVV and Jeff Green legs are gone - can’t hit nothing from 3

    Holiday has gone cold from 3 and now practically useless …

    Ime needs to learn to ride the hot hands and keep players in game til they ask out … no excuse we have players score double digit qtrs and then don’t touch ball for 8-10 minute stretches

    Go big and fast
    Amen JG Cam Brooks or Bari Alpi …
     
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    Nah. I don't think the offense stagnated because of Green. You are expressing contradictory thoughts by saying Sengun, Bari and Fred missed shots they normally make and Green being good stagnated the offense. Sengun missed many finishes at the rim/ That is very uncharacteristic for him. If they hit their normal shots this is a win tonight. Nothing to do with any new offensive style. Green is just making the right play and trusts his handle much more now.
     
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    This is what I mentioned to the wife earlier. JG just doesn't really fit with the rest of the team who are all more half court style (and Cam/Tari who can kinda fit in anywhere).

    Ultimately with JG I think we're going to have to find a Sabonis for Haliburton style of trade where both teams win.
     
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    I'm not blaming Jalen for them missing shots they normally make. I'm making observations about the overall process. Overall, the offense looks okay (not great, but okay) when the FVV/Sengun combo is working well. And it looks okay (but not great) when Jalen has a great game like he has been doing the past five games. What I'm not getting a sense of is that those three are working together in a way that enhances the whole team offense and elevates it from "okay" to "great". It's like watching the team switch back and forth between different gameplans and approaches.

    The FVV/Alpi game badly needs a safety valve guard whose main role is just knocking down three pointers. The Jalen game needs runningmates who play that uptempo full court game. I'm not convinced the three of them starting together is working, and Jalen is obviously the odd man out if that is true. For multiple reasons--Ime obviously favors a slower pace; FVV and Sengun fit together well but neither fits well with Jalen; and lastly, Alpi has pretty much proven he's the better player to build around at this point (sorry, I know you like Green a lot).
     
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    What changed from the first two meetings vs Jonas, where he averaged 12/10 on .500 shooting compared to Sengun's 30 and 10.
    not a question.
    Pelicans Got the Rockets to go elsewhere and eventually Jonas could roam without fearing getting fouls called on him.
     
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    I doubt that Stone is up for the job and fit enough to make the Rockets the Sacramento Rockets......

    And by all means Jalen is not as good as Fox, he might be getting close but it will take him years....

    And the Rockets might look a lot different with new rookies after that.

    It is the way the Rockets are developing and winning, it is a hard thing to juggle both at the same time.
    With a personnel that is wildly diverse lol wildly.....


     
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    I just don't see this compatibility issue. I don't think Sengun has diminshed his role because of Green excelling. Sengun had one of the best games of the season for him against the Lakers.
     
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    No
     
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    Damn what happened? Gonna watch the game in a bit.

    This is definitely one of those nights where a good backup C would be useful. Even Jokic doesn't have it every SINGLE night, you have to have something more than Jeff Green at backup C.

    It's ok that some teams will try to take away our interior game while daring us to shoot, but FVV/Green/Cam gave them plenty. We needed just a tiny bit more from the PF/C positions. This is a good game to learn from. They'll emerge stronger from this. Also, Udoka is furious about the execution in transition, and the team needs a bit of polishing in that area.
     
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    I think Zion is good but can easily be attacked and stripped.....

    Valanciunas is no scrub, he probably has problems with a skilled PF/Center such as Sengün but he is a Top 2 strong man, he will get his.....in 1 of 3 games.

     
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    No Zion so they played 4 out causing Bari to have to run around perimeter and leaving Alpi alone to rebound

    They crashed paint on FVV and Alpi PnR and Jalen was only one hitting shots

    Val played a lot more physical and refs let him and that kind of play causes Alpi problems - he missed a lot of bunnies and had some bad TOs
     
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    They didn't go to Alperen in the first half. 3 FGAs. That was by design by the Pelicans. In those previous games, Jonas had 4 fouls by halftime with how much Alpi was getting to his spots and getting the ball. But clearly they watched what Brooklyn did.
     
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    JV has always had games where he bullies Sengun. Even going back to last year, we saw them trading blows. Depends on how the game is being called and whether Alpi is feeling it that particular night. If he's not, Jonas' physicality really bothers him on both ends.
     
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    This time they deploy jeeps instead of tanks......

     
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    Alpe is getting tired out, he is not going to be great every night.....Jalen's emergence is welcoming but yeah...guys are getting gassed.

    That is why it was so important that Jalen Green has to show up in January and December..to win those games.....while the others were clicking too.

     

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